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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 18:30:22 GMT -5
Don't be stupid. East Asian countries are among the most innovative on earth in patents per million population. Most of the top 25 inventions of the past twenty five years had technology invented by Asians. patents per million Asian countriesUSA and CanadaEuropeThese figures are from 1998. They are even more innovative now. The latest figures show Taiwan to be the most innovative "country" on Earth. Also, the person who holds the record for most inventions in a life time is Japanese. Hallam, if ANY only one or two of the Top 25 inventions in the last 25 years I listed have been made by asians (and no honda and toyota did not invent the hybrid car, that was an innovation long before those were probably around), but I dont think any of them were. I have no clue what you are talking about. If you want I can go down the list and name the inventor of EVERY one of those inventions I listed, just ask and I will do it. I am curious on where you got those figures on patents, can you list those for me. Anyone can make a patent for anything. I am also curious as to what the Taiwanese invented, and I am also curious as to who that Japanese man is, and what he invented (I believe you on this one, but I want to know his name for knowledge reasons). I can patent a chair that would talk to you when you sit on it, a glow in the dark house, even a type of food, but what SIGNIFICANCE does it have to the modern world? Like I said, I dont consider making a car more reliable or making a car that talks an invention.
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Post by Hallam on Mar 20, 2005 18:58:47 GMT -5
If you want I can go down the list and name the inventor of EVERY one of those inventions I listed, just ask and I will do it. Yes, please do that and list your source please. First, there is no single inventor to almost all of those inventions. They are a designed and engineered by many people and many people have contributed patents to their development. Many of those patents are by Asians. United Nations. Human Development Report 2001. pp.48-50. Ah, no... ::)they can't. To estabish a patent, you would need to prove several things. One, that it is an original invention or method of doing something. 2. You need to prove that it is not "obvious" (this is a legal term. 3. You need to prove that it has a use function. You would need to prove all this by legal emthods to get your patent. Too many to list. Taiwan is among the leaders in computer technology. They have made many patents in telecommunications, networking, harware, software, and many other fields. Much of the computer parts I am working on right now sych as my motherbaord is from a Taiwanese company that is very innovative. I am sure you probably have some on the computer you are working also. A little research on your part would explain a lot. The Japanese inventors name is Dr. Yoshiro Nakamatsu Inventor of the Floppy disk, CD (Co-inventor) and digital watch. Do you know what an invention is?
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 19:02:15 GMT -5
OK hallam, you got me. ;D
But, they even have patents for video games, and food! just dont forget that.
But I will still give you the originator/ country of origin of those 25 inventions later on today, I am still confident that almost are most invented by non-asians, I know for a fact the top 5 arent.
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 19:09:18 GMT -5
Hallam, I can't find that source on the internet, can you give it to me please?
(hallam, I would rather this conversation go PM, because it could get messy and racy)
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 19:13:24 GMT -5
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 19:15:34 GMT -5
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 19:29:08 GMT -5
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 19:46:46 GMT -5
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Post by nordicyouth on Mar 20, 2005 20:06:18 GMT -5
IQ has nothing at all to do with success; in fact, it is often culture-biased in terms of testing and generally still inconclusive as a measure - like using GDP growth as a measure of a country's success.
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 20:17:05 GMT -5
15) Advanced Batteries, Gaston Planté<br>http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Biographies/PlantelBio.htm 16) Hybrid Car, Woods auto-information.org/history.htmYet ironically, Honda and Toyota have so many patents on hybrid cars that other car develpors have to throw an arm and a leg to make their own, even though Honda and Toyota did not invent the Hybrid car, funny how patents work. 17. OLED, Eastman Kodak www.webopedia.com/TERM/O/OLED.html18. Plasma Display Panels, Larry Weber, he invented it for a Japanese company, that took all the credit. www.ece.uiuc.edu/alumni/w02-03/plasma_history.htmlDown to 18 and still see none. Im tired, I'll come back and post the rest later.
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 20:21:27 GMT -5
IQ has nothing at all to do with success; in fact, it is often culture-biased in terms of testing and generally still inconclusive as a measure - like using GDP growth as a measure of a country's success. IQ was orignally invented to measure Logical-Mathmatical Intellegence ONLY, even the originator said so. It was Eurocentrics, then much later Asiacentrics also that bastardized it and said it measured ACUTAL intellegence, so they could claim intellectual superiority over another race. Someone should read the history behind the IQ, it has been twisted a lot in the past 80 years. Someone should also read the more modern theory of multiple intellegences by Howard Gardner. Creativity Tests. www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g2699/is_0004/ai_2699000431You'd be surprised that the results are much different from IQ tests.
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Post by mike2 on Mar 20, 2005 20:24:35 GMT -5
Someone should also read the more modern theory of multiple intellegences by Howard Gardner. Heh. Small world. I just read about his theory in my psychology class.
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Post by Hallam on Mar 20, 2005 20:45:32 GMT -5
Yeah that's right, no single person invented it. You still haven't shown just who were all the people repsonsible for inventing it. Especially within the last 25 years He didn't invent the cell phone. You are confusing fiber optics with "optical telegraph" They are not the same. TRhis is from your own "source" Bides, that was invented in 1790s. I thought we were talking about inventions of the last 25 years? My father actually hold many patents in fiber optic and computer engineering technology that made millions of dollars for many companies. Like I said, the p[ast 25 years. Of course if you go back further, you would find many non-Asian inventions. Asia is emmerging technologically. How about we compare the thousand years of Dark-Ages in Europe were they didn't invent hardly jack squat with the same period in China? Common, wisen up! Many Asian Americans are Engineers at GPS. They are the innovators there. Not some businessman. AGian, there are many engineers at IBM who are Asian and are responsible for these inventions. ALso, you are not being honest. 1954 is not within the last 25 years. By saying that IBM invented something, you don't show WHO invented it. And 1956 is not within the last 25 years either. Just aboutt all of your links are bogus just like the first one whcih claimed taht many of thes einventions happened in the last 25 years when that is bullshit. 1939 is not with the last 25 years. Please learn how to read. See above. Also true "advanced batteries" were invented by a Japanese. 64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:OcHtXLZB390J:www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3864/is_199903/ai_n8847160+%22advanced+battery%22+inventor&hl=enEastman Kodak is a comapny not a person. LOL You are not being honest. Many of the "people" you cite are not people but companies in the US who has many Asian engineers. Also, going back 50 years to prove your point about inventions of the last 25 are just lame and sad. And, the only developed Asian countries now are S Korea and Japan. You are comparing Europe (300 million people) Russia (135 million) the US (300 million) Canada (40 million) with Japan and S Korea which has a combined total of 165 Million people. Of course there are going to be a higher overall number. That's because those are the only developed nations in Asia (other than 23 million Taiwan). That is why my UN source (I already gave it to you) is more accurate because it is Patents PER MILLION of the population. Also, you can patent video game technology here in the states too or anywhere for that matter. As China get's more advanced, you will se a huge boom in technology from that country. The Chinese are innovators par excellence.
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Post by Fleurs on Mar 20, 2005 20:48:08 GMT -5
The best way to measure countries intelligence is HISTORY period.
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 20:51:15 GMT -5
Last but not least, 19) HDTV High Definition Television, as we know it today, was created by a Grand Alliance of companies, about 5 companies, all American companies except maybe one (is Zenith a J. company? If not, then all were american companies) www.skyvision.com/pages/information_center/hdtvfaq.html#t1020) Space Shuttles Every idiot knows which nationality invented this one. 21. Nanotechnology Adam Cohen inventors.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://web.mit.edu/invent/iow/cohen.html22. Flash memory Fujio Masuoka, I knew at least one was invented by Asians. www.theinquirer.net/?article=1448123 Voice Mail Gordon Matthews ptd.weblogger.com/stories/storyReader$9224. Modern hearing aids To many to count at the moment, the originator of the Modern one is Graham Bell, then many others later on, the Digital Hearing aid was invented by an American company. 25. Short Range, High Frequency Radio Edwin Howard www.fathom.com/seminars/10701020/As you can see, 24 of the 25 top recent inventions were made by non-asians. Taiwan and Japan own hundreds of patents on these inventions especially on the top half, but they by no means invented them. Hell, I own a brand of butter that has a patent on it, lol! Smart Balence Butter. My point, IQ does not relate to creativity, and you can have your own patents on inventions by improving upon them.
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