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Post by Fleurs on Mar 20, 2005 14:07:50 GMT -5
This thread is making no sense whatsoever, who is anyone in here to judge which race is least intelligent, and why does it matter anyway? You know what that forum is about mister goody goody?
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Post by Berter on Mar 20, 2005 14:13:23 GMT -5
i just voted for berbers ;D That proves how DUMB you are, black mujahid! ;D
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Post by Fleurs on Mar 20, 2005 14:13:59 GMT -5
so Kalashnikov, objectively who did you pick? and was it based on personal experience? (where do you live btw) I wanted to say aboriginals, but I dont know them well, so I picked the people which have been the slaves of almost everybody, just that particular should count as a good proof, unless it was their hobby, which I strongly doubt.
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Post by KLI on Mar 20, 2005 14:21:09 GMT -5
That proves how DUMB you are, black mujahid! ;D naah, im a genius and my choice fits perfectly with Kalashnikov's criteria, seeing that the berbers had been slaves to carthaginians, romans, vandals, arabs, etc etc
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Post by ramsharma on Mar 20, 2005 14:23:48 GMT -5
There should have been another choice in the poll--other. I didn't vote b/c I believe all races are equally as intelligent.
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Post by Berter on Mar 20, 2005 14:53:57 GMT -5
naah, im a genius and my choice fits perfectly with Kalashnikov's criteria, seeing that the berbers had been slaves to carthaginians, romans, vandals, arabs, etc etc If that were true then we should have 2 votes for berbers (yours and that of kalash). Berberia have been occupied many times in history, but we have never been enslaved, never... Blacks were effectively enslaved by practically all the peoples north of them (egyptians, berbers, arabs, ....nords ;D)
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 14:59:55 GMT -5
What is Intellegence, and can you really measure it?
The MODERN theory is that there are multiple Intellegences , it can be divided into a lot of things....
If we are talking about Spatial Intellengence (IQ), then Jews (the ones that migrated to Europe) and East Asians are the smartest, with Europeans coming 3rd.
If we are talking about Creative Intellegence, then I'd say the Arab and Europeans are the smartest, judging by contributions to the world, and by looking at the top 25 innovations in the past 25 years.
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Post by Fleurs on Mar 20, 2005 15:03:36 GMT -5
What is Intellegence, and can you really measure it? The MODERN theory is that there are multiple Intellegences , it can be divided into a lot of things.... If we are talking about Spatial Intellengence (IQ), then Jews (the ones that migrated to Europe) and East Asians are the highest, with Europeans coming 3rd. If we are talking about Creative Intellegence, then I'd say the Arab and Europeans are the highest, judging by contributions to the world. Can we measure intelligence? you answered well.
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Post by Berter on Mar 20, 2005 15:03:46 GMT -5
What do you mean by Spatial Intelligence !?
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 15:06:55 GMT -5
What do you mean by Spatial Intelligence !? Spatial Intellegence is your problem-solving intellegence, your IQ, but it has no relation to your Creative Intellegence, you can be a race with the lowest IQ and still have high creative intellegence, or intellegent in other areas.
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Post by Berter on Mar 20, 2005 15:13:29 GMT -5
Spatial Intellegence is your problem-solving intellegence, your IQ, but it has no relation to your Creative Intellegence, you can be a race with the lowest IQ and still have high creative intellegence, or intellegent in other areas. I think one cannot be creative (cannot have creative intelligence, what I call 'material intelligence') without being a good problems-solver...
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Post by whoseyourdaddy on Mar 20, 2005 15:26:21 GMT -5
I think one cannot be creative (cannot have creative intelligence, what I call 'material intelligence') without being a good problems-solver... Not neccesarily, if you look at the races with the highest IQ, many have not invented much to the modern world, or much within the last 500 years with the exception of Eienstein and a couple of others. And I dont consider engineering progress like making a TV smaller a measure of creativity. Take an IQ test of many famous authors and movie directors, many are pretty average at most, but they are creative in a sense of story-telling. Even supporters of the IQ test say that it is not a measure of creativity. You can look at the top 25 innovations in the past 25 years as a reference: jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/01/top_25_technica.htmlNow if IQ were a measure of creativity, then logic says that the race with the highest IQ would have invented all of these, but that isnt the case.
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Post by mike2 on Mar 20, 2005 15:38:31 GMT -5
Yeah, the IQ is a worthless indicator for creativity.
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Post by Hallam on Mar 20, 2005 15:51:22 GMT -5
Not neccesarily, if you look at the races with the highest IQ, many have not invented much to the modern world, or much within the last 500 years with the exception of Eienstein and a couple of others. And I dont consider engineering progress like making a TV smaller a measure of creativity. Take an IQ test of many famous authors and movie directors, many are pretty average at most, but they are creative in a sense of story-telling. Even supporters of the IQ test say that it is not a measure of creativity. You can look at the top 25 innovations in the past 25 years as a reference: jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/01/top_25_technica.htmlNow if IQ were a measure of creativity, then logic says that the race with the highest IQ would have invented all of these, but that isnt the case. Don't be stupid. East Asian countries are among the most innovative on earth in patents per million population. Most of the top 25 inventions of the past twenty five years had technology invented by Asians. patents per million Asian countriesUSA and CanadaEuropeThese figures are from 1998. They are even more innovative now. The latest figures show Taiwan to be the most innovative "country" on Earth. Also, the person who holds the record for most inventions in a life time is Japanese.
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Post by Hallam on Mar 20, 2005 15:52:47 GMT -5
Yeah, the IQ is a worthless indicator for creativity. There is a mild but positive correlation with creativity and it seems to be a curvalinear relationship. But yes, sometimes some very intelligent people, both in creativity and "booksmarts" will not score well on an IQ test.
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