Killings in Red Lake by "Angel of Death"

[vela]

I know this can be interpreted as morbosity on my part but I beleive that there is an important lesson to be learned, that in light of the the topics that are routinely touched in this board and the mindset of the young man that killed 9 persons and himself.

First the link to the story:

www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1443917,00.html

Then a link to the cached paged of some of "Angel of Death" posts:

(Note: copy the text and paste it in your browser)

64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:Dlr86foA5hcJ:www.nazi.org/current/forum/YaBB.cgi%3Fboard%3Dnativeamerican%3Baction%3Dprint%3Bnum%3D1079672948+Todesengel+hitler+indian&hl=en&lr=lang_en%20target=nw



#nosmileys

[Freehuey]

I think this is a result of the many lonely "square" kids that are in our school system, these kids have Clueless, non-concerned parents or overly concerned parents who refuse to believe that " bobby" is crazy (needs help),etc.

I think the only solution is to make psychological evaluations mandatory in the school system. I also think boys growing up go through a lot of issues regarding don't laugh, but penis size, height inferiority, and just dealing with being unattractive, people like that need help....

I also think it's the very same thing that makes people become racist, the feeling of not having what another race has, whether it's penis size, color, etc..

[mike2]

I feel really sorry that the young man fell into Neo-Nazism.

[vela]

This is the home page of Nationalist Forums, where "Angel of Death" used to hang around:

www.nazi.org/community/forum/

It is likely that the fallout of this tragic incident may be an increase in the scrutiny over boards and forums where racial hate, discrimination and similar sentiments are expressed.

I don't think we have any extreme members here, do we?

[Freehuey]

yes you do, lots of crazies, that refer to blacks and arabs in a very derogatory way....this board spews of stormfront trolls trash from the hills with small members

[mike2]

That's not true. This board is nothing like Stormfront or RAS.

[Freehuey]

ok ok Mike, there are a few VERY vocal trolls patroling the boards...LOL, but a lot of nice people here too...

[vela]

Freehuey said:

yes you do, lots of crazies, that refer to blacks and arabs in a very derogatory way....this board spews of stormfront trolls trash from the hills with small members

yes you do?

you not a member??

[vela]

The creative american mind at work:

[jojoscircus]

There was a poster here (he hasn't posted in a while) who seemed rather crazy. I mentioned it once and he seemed to disappear. After hearing about this tragedy I'm feeling rather creeped out right now.

[nordicyouth]

Wasn't the shooter Amerindian? Shocking how virtually anyone can access Neo-nazism, and end up hating themselves and their people. Apparently, there's an Israeli film, based on the true story of a Jewish guy who goes Nazi. I bet there are Black and Asian Neo-nazis too...

It's not about truth in heritage, it's simply an ideology that feeds the fears and hates already inside a person, and is a conduit for acting out those sentiments - usually violently. These individuals always mass-murder many people and commit suicide, a final enactment of the self-loathing and hatred of others inside them.

[Melnorme]

It's not an Israeli film :

www.imdb.com/title/tt0247199/

It's a pretty good movie, though it leaves too many loose ends.

[vela]

I saw the movie too (The Believer). The main protagonist had some serious problems with authority figures or with religious authority.

In the end the movie director turns too preachy, IMO, by indirectly suggesting or showing god's discontent with his rebelious child.

[murphee]

There is a definite pattern with the profiles of 'school shooters.' The perpetrators are bullied by their peers and have no or few friends.

[Josh]

A.U.C.T.O.R.I.T.A.S. said:

Wasn't the shooter Amerindian? Shocking how virtually anyone can access Neo-nazism, and end up hating themselves and their people. Apparently, there's an Israeli film, based on the true story of a Jewish guy who goes Nazi. I bet there are Black and Asian Neo-nazis too...

As far as I can tell, he wasn't self-hating. He took NS beliefs and applied them to Amerindians, wanting Amerindians to remain pure and such. He obviously had serious issues, but he wasn't a self-hating, wannabe German or any other type of white.