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Post by Igu on Mar 13, 2005 12:31:43 GMT -5
do many north africans consider themselves "black"? i mean the ones mixed with black. yeah, there are many, but they don't behave as afro-americans do, they consider themeselves north african black, that's all, they don't whine about a lost heritage.
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Post by k5125 on Mar 13, 2005 15:06:51 GMT -5
I wonder if they consider themselves African American when they immigrate here.
It almost makes more sense to call a Moroccan American "African American" rather than "Middle Eastern American."
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Post by Melnorme on Mar 13, 2005 15:07:54 GMT -5
It almost makes more sense to call a Moroccan American "African American" rather than "Middle Eastern American." Actually, they're called white Americans. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by alexandrian on Mar 13, 2005 15:15:07 GMT -5
Actually, they're called white Americans. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Exactly, or Arab-Americans. National Geographic puts Libya and Egypt in the Middle East. Egypt is probably closer to other Middle Eastern nations than Maghrebian nations but Libya is debatable, though I think Middle Eastern is more appropriate for Libya than Maghrebian.
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Post by k5125 on Mar 13, 2005 15:30:14 GMT -5
Actually, they're called white Americans. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Some are white definately. So wouldn't that make them white african americans in all seriousness?
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Post by alexandrian on Mar 13, 2005 15:34:42 GMT -5
Some are white definately. So wouldn't that make them white african americans in all seriousness? AFrican-American is a racial term, its definiton is "the descendant of one of the original inhabitants of sub-Saharan Africa." Caucasian refers to descendants of the original inhabitants of Europe, Middle East, and North Africa. They're Caucasian racially and ethnically "Arab-American".
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Post by Igu on Mar 13, 2005 15:36:17 GMT -5
AFrican-American is a racial term, its definiton is "the descendant of one of the original inhabitants of sub-Saharan Africa." Caucasian refers to descendants of the original inhabitants of Europe, Middle East, and North Africa. They're Caucasian racially and ethnically "Arab-American". and some Berber-American, unlike copts, Berbers are still Berbers.
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Post by k5125 on Mar 13, 2005 15:38:18 GMT -5
AFrican-American is a racial term, its definiton is "the descendant of one of the original inhabitants of sub-Saharan Africa." Caucasian refers to descendants of the original inhabitants of Europe, Middle East, and North Africa. They're Caucasian racially and ethnically "Arab-American". I agree, but it just seems a little silly to label an ultra brown skinned moroccan individual as "white." A lot of these guys almost are black.
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Post by k5125 on Mar 13, 2005 15:41:44 GMT -5
Are people from Djbouti African American? I think they are black, but also arab speaking right?
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Post by KLI on Mar 13, 2005 15:44:27 GMT -5
Are people from Djbouti African American? I think they are black, but also arab speaking right? LOL Djibouti is a Somali country
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Post by alexandrian on Mar 13, 2005 16:10:49 GMT -5
Are people from Djbouti African American? I think they are black, but also arab speaking right? Of course they are Afro-American because they are sub-Saharan.
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Post by mike2 on Mar 13, 2005 16:21:49 GMT -5
Modern day racial labels like black and Afro-American are simply insufficient. They are culturally and socially-based and are not very useful when one wants to distinguish between true-blue black Africans and derivatives and composites and mixed races and so on. The people who invented the terms "black" and "African American" and "Hispanic" simply didn't have much experience in ethnology.
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Post by KLI on Mar 13, 2005 16:22:12 GMT -5
Of course they are Afro-American because they are sub-Saharan. Alexandrian...you dont know shit.
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Post by k5125 on Mar 13, 2005 16:27:43 GMT -5
Modern day racial labels like black and Afro-American are simply insufficient. They are culturally and socially-based and are not very useful when one wants to distinguish between true-blue black Africans and derivatives and composites and mixed races and so on. The people who invented the terms "black" and "African American" and "Hispanic" simply didn't have much experience in ethnology. Well said.
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Post by alexandrian on Mar 13, 2005 19:02:56 GMT -5
Alexandrian...you dont know shit. I'm sorry but what I said is true. I'm sorry that you clearly would rather be associated with Arabs than other black Africans, but you'll just have to deal. ARab-American is an ethnic label not a racial one. The definiton of AFrican-American, as per the US Census Bureau is "a descendant of one of the original inhabitants of sub-Saharan Africa'. Djibouti, Somalia, and Ethiopians clearly fit that description because they are in sub-Saharan AFrica.
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