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Post by nordicyouth on Feb 24, 2005 15:59:07 GMT -5
Ah, ignorance at work. Ethno-racial divisions are always space and time biased situations. Space, because an all-White region is far likelier to divide itself according to 'light' and 'dark' Whites than a region with both Whites and Blacks. And the greater the regional variables, the greater the set of phenotypical division. Time, because demographics change e.g. significant numbers of Arabs, Irano-Afghans, and South Asians immigrating; attitudes change as well - perhaps a 'brown' box on the census form. Europeans used to divide themselves up by ethnicity/nationality, and still do to some extent, but with the advent of immigration from North Africa, the Middle East, and Sub-saharan Africa, European divisions are compensating by becoming increasingly racial in nature. I've always said this: the only thing that will ACTUALLY unite humanity into one is if aliens invade Earth. Even then, McCullough would try to determine (a) if the aliens are 'White' in appearance, and (b) if so, maybe they're the allies Whites seek against non-Whites. Then he'll redraw his map of the world of how races and subraces should geographically organize themselves. People seem to need an Other. The Other may change (or fluctuate in 'Otherness'), but the attitudes toward it or the need for it will not.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Feb 24, 2005 17:23:24 GMT -5
I've always said this: the only thing that will ACTUALLY unite humanity into one is if aliens invade Earth. Even then, McCullough would try to determine (a) if the aliens are 'White' in appearance, and (b) if so, maybe they're the allies Whites seek against non-Whites. Then he'll redraw his map of the world of how races and subraces should geographically organize themselves. ;D
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Post by MC anunnaki on Feb 24, 2005 17:25:24 GMT -5
The Iranian stereotype is usually true, I hate to say. I haven't even met one that isn't pompous and snotty to me. Hey, what about me?
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Post by ghotme on Feb 24, 2005 17:26:06 GMT -5
Alexandrian, are u copt? all copts that i know is far to look whites... And i dont think they can pass for greeks, only cuz both are orthodox christian dont mean they look the same. Where are you? In my area, most people acknowledge that Mediterraneans and most Middle Easterners are white, as long as they have light skin. A lot still have a hard time acknowledging that dark Egyptians/Arabs are white even if they have obvious Caucasian characteristics. Sometimes people are surprised to find out that North Africans and "Arabs" can be light-skinned. Yeah, Persians are good people, though they've picked up a not-so-good stereotype of them being rich, selfish, snobby, and rude. Whenever my family eats at a Persian restaurant, the waiter comes up to us and talks in Farsi. It's pretty cool though.
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Post by alexandrian on Feb 24, 2005 19:18:13 GMT -5
Alexandrian, are u copt? all copts that i know is far to look whites... And i dont think they can pass for greeks, only cuz both are orthodox christian dont mean they look the same. yes, I'm Coptic but I'm not devout. I'm glad the two copts you know don't fit ur definition of white, and I'm not surprised. I'm not suggesting that all or even most Egyptians look like me or could pass for white in America, but some can. Furthermore, your definitoin of "white" is skewed by your obvious racism against ARabs. If you don't consider Arabians Caucasian than you obviously don't consider Egyptians caucasian, since the two are fairly similar. Also, I never said most Copts could pass for Greeks, I said some could, I have been confused for Greek a number of times. I'm well aware religion doesn't define who you look like....
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Post by mike2 on Feb 24, 2005 19:45:52 GMT -5
It all depends on how one defines white. The Nordicists would like everyone to believe that the Caucasian race ends as soon as you step outside Europe. What a load of crap. The Caucasoids are not confined to Europe, which for a continent is a relatively new concept, completely cultural, not racial. What I love is how the Nordicists never explain what exactly a 'Semite' is in their opinion. They just assume Semites aren't white, some kind of mixed race that destroyed the Nordic civilizations of Mesopotamia and Persia. Nevermind that Semites aren't Congoid, Capoid, Australoid, Mongoloid, or mixed (though of course there are exceptions). They're generally as Caucasoid as Europeans. Nordicists just can't stand the fact they share a common ancestry with "Hymie" and the "dirty Arabs." They are so friggin' stupid.
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Post by Josh on Feb 24, 2005 20:27:00 GMT -5
The Nordicists would like everyone to believe that the Caucasian race ends as soon as you step outside Europe. More like south of Switzerland and east of Germany (sans Scandinavia).
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Post by mike2 on Feb 24, 2005 20:43:03 GMT -5
More like south of Switzerland and east of Germany (sans Scandinavia). Heh heh, good point. The extreme ones like Kemp think so at least. I can't speak for all Nordicists, though. Some of them think Kemp is an idiot (which is probably the only thing they've ever been right about).
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Post by IfTheLightTakesUs on Feb 24, 2005 22:33:27 GMT -5
Hey, what about me? Well you're a Persian female so that gets you into the "most beautiful women in the world" category.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Feb 25, 2005 4:06:15 GMT -5
Ooh, nice. ;D
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Post by KLI on Feb 25, 2005 4:42:03 GMT -5
funny thing about Iranians in Toronto...i notice alot of them try to act ''gino'' (italian) here ie slick backed hair ad those tight pants lol. i know alot of Iranian dudes who like to pose as italians. theres this salesman i knew who called himself "Ray" i was like aashutup mane, u aint no god damn Ray, im sure your name is Jamshidi Akbarpour or some sh*t" ;D
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Post by IfTheLightTakesUs on Feb 25, 2005 11:22:52 GMT -5
funny thing about Iranians in Toronto...i notice alot of them try to act ''gino'' (italian) here ie slick backed hair ad those tight pants lol. i know alot of Iranian dudes who like to pose as italians. theres this salesman i knew who called himself "Ray" i was like aashutup mane, u aint no god damn Ray, im sure your name is Jamshidi Akbarpour or some sh*t" ;D ahahaha I hear the same things about Lebanese up there, that is so godamn hilarious! ahahaha
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Post by MC anunnaki on Feb 26, 2005 2:26:00 GMT -5
funny thing about Iranians in Toronto...i notice alot of them try to act ''gino'' (italian) here ie slick backed hair ad those tight pants lol. i know alot of Iranian dudes who like to pose as italians. theres this salesman i knew who called himself "Ray" i was like aashutup mane, u aint no god damn Ray, im sure your name is Jamshidi Akbarpour or some sh*t" ;D Haha, nice! ;D
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Post by Meddish on Mar 1, 2005 20:55:21 GMT -5
funny thing about Iranians in Toronto...i notice alot of them try to act ''gino'' (italian) here ie slick backed hair ad those tight pants lol. i know alot of Iranian dudes who like to pose as italians. theres this salesman i knew who called himself "Ray" i was like aashutup mane, u aint no god damn Ray, im sure your name is Jamshidi Akbarpour or some sh*t" ;D I think if someones doing this it isint because of a great love or wanting to be non-arab or non-middle eastern.But rather to not have to suffer the predujice of most of the west towards people from the ME.Lets face it what do most people think of people from the ME? 1.)They are all terrorists 2.)They beat there wives 3.)They screw camels and live in the desert. 4.)Or all of the above
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