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Post by Human on Mar 2, 2005 8:27:14 GMT -5
Their was no Nubian Empire,it was a Kingdom.It was first started by the Egyptians btw.And the last time the Nubians tried taking pieces of Southern Eygpt the Romans handed them their ass's and sacked their cities. This white/black issue is not imoporant,what is important is that Eygptians are Caucasians,all the evidence porves whether gentically or Archeologically. Nubian Empire or Kingdom or something no matter they had a large black negroid component. And they a whole network of relations with Ancient Egyptians... Ancient Egyptians were not pure caucasoids. The Germans and Britons of that time were, but they were brutally uncivilized stupid and barbaric too. The largely mixed Egyptians built a great civilization which has impacted in the development of all the other surrounding mediterranean cilizations.
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Post by Tautamo on Mar 2, 2005 8:31:02 GMT -5
Nubian Empire or Kingdom or something no matter they had a large black negroid component. And they a whole network of relations with Ancient Egyptians... Ancient Egyptians were not pure caucasoids. The Germans and Britons of that time were, but they were brutally uncivilized stupid and barbaric too. The largely mixed Egyptians built a great civilization which has impacted in the development of all the other surrounding mediterranean cilizations. human, just ask them to prove it. if they said it then they must of read it somewhere and if they read it then show us what you read.
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Post by Shenuda on Mar 2, 2005 8:32:14 GMT -5
Ancient Egyptians were not pure caucasoids. The Germans and Britons of that time were, but they were brutally uncivilized stupid and barbaric too. Right, but please stop it, it´s really neverending story. I am just awaiting for Alexandrian ...
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Post by Human on Mar 2, 2005 9:16:48 GMT -5
human, just ask them to prove it. if they said it then they must of read it somewhere and if they read it then show us what you read. about Ancient Egypt? sorry but i need no reading. i look at a map. i know Ancient Egypt was a Nile based civilization. i see where the river Nile begins and where it ends. the wide range of people following river Nile. from black negroid at the beginning, to mostly blacks and finally to hamitic caucasoid but still mixed with blacks Ancient Egyptians. all their monuments confirm this to me. many (not all, obviously) of these Ancient Egyptians would fall into the coloured category in modern US, victims of segregation and discrimination. i wonder where were the 'almight' Germanics of that time, i mean, thousands of years before Christ, with their blond hair painted bodies... practicing some human sacrifices, incapable of recording or transmiting down the generations culture (because of LACK OF WRITING).... a lot of time after Tacitus depicted a rather crude image of that people of old. the Britons werent different either.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Mar 2, 2005 17:57:18 GMT -5
< Wrong. So far as I know, most of African-Americans are not 100% blacks and many are even more caucasoid than negroid calling them "African-Americans" instead of "blacks" or "negroids" is much better. > Guess you dont know much then! As you said,if their not 100% black,than why would you call them Afro-American when their mixed? By your own stupid logic you defeat yourself. Using the term AFRO-American,your impling/assuming that 1) all Africans are racially/ ethicnically black 2)The Afro-Americans all decended from Africa . The blacks of the USA are still black/negroid regardless of whatever point you where trying to make.And African does not mean Black,cause their are many Caucasian who are africans.The term African was only used to describe North Africa by the Romans,not the Sub-Sarahan lands or a whoe contintent.So in any case its a wrong term. Kush/nubia was sacked by the Romans by Governor Publius Petronius,who invaded Nubia in response to a Nubian attack on southern Egypt.The Romans pillaged the north of the region and sacked Napata before returning north.Do your Homework. Seems you knuckleheads are so obsessed with proving things,then why dont you prove one thing other than your afrocentric crap you keep shelling out over and over again based on nothing but your imaginations. Here's something to dwell on: www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/egypt_nubia.html
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Post by alexandrian on Mar 2, 2005 18:20:18 GMT -5
The photo Spiro showed looks like many Black people I know. he even looks a little like me. :-) When I was a boy and went to the Metropolitan Museum of Art and saw the Egyptian Exhibit, I saw quickly statues and paintings that looked just like me and friends and relatives. hahaha...what bull...first you say Hoda Qotb looks black, when most people here disagree. That picture Spiro posted is far from black, that man has tan skin, straight hair, thin lips, and a very thin nose....he doesn't have a SINGLE Negroid Features. How is he black? The fact is he's a typical Middle Easterner, and looks like a lot of North Indians. Again, he has no negroid features, so if you really are black, than you can't look like him, or else you wouldn't be black, because you'd have no black features and a medium skin tone.
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Post by alexandrian on Mar 2, 2005 18:22:32 GMT -5
human, just ask them to prove it. if they said it then they must of read it somewhere and if they read it then show us what you read. Human and Tautamo...you both obviously know very little about Egypt other than that it's in the Valley. The ancient egyptians are in America today, in the form of Egyptian-Americans, and guess what?...they're classified as White Moreover, the ancient Egyptian Caucasian racial identity has been proven many times before in this thread- don't be lazy and try reading the 20+ pages and you'll get quotes, pictures, and genetic results.
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Post by Tautamo on Mar 2, 2005 18:32:52 GMT -5
Human and Tautamo...you both obviously know very little about Egypt other than that it's in the Valley. The ancient egyptians are in America today, in the form of Egyptian-Americans, and guess what?...they're classified as White Moreover, the ancient Egyptian Caucasian racial identity has been proven many times before in this thread- don't be lazy and try reading the 20+ pages and you'll get quotes, pictures, and genetic results. And where did i say they are not caucasian? does anyone read what i write or do they just want to yap yap along? look certainly they where "caucasian" but mixed raced ones did exist and to simply say they where "white" is WAY TO SIMPLIFIED! -Egypt is not one dynasty and its years old. my beef lays with people who call them white or proto nordic! if those egyptians lived today and someone posted their picture on DODONA people would be moaning they are not "white" lol get it? and to crimsongaurd proving is everything.its the only way to have a decent convo rather than ideological RANTINGS.
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Post by Shenuda on Mar 3, 2005 3:52:33 GMT -5
Guess you dont know much then! Well, I am not American and never been in USA so I probably don´t know much ;D And my logic is stupid? I said that the term "African-American" is better, because they are not 100% negroid, so to call them "African Americans" is better than "blacks". In that sense, African Americans are just people who have some black African ancestry. Some of them have big negroid admixture, some of them only small. It doesn´t mean that all Africans are black, but you are right that all African Americans descended from Africa ;D Damn, I said that those people are not all black and some of them are even more caucasoid, so what´s your point? There are many Africans who are caucasoid, but it doesn´t mean that the term "African American" shouldn´t be used. It´s just special term for Americans with black African ancestry. Haha ;D I know this story, but you presented it practically like triumph of caucasoid race over dirty Nubian negroids. Shokran, shokran, shokran, but the problem is that: 1) I am not Afrocentric 2) I am not African American 3) I am not black So, your statement is a little misdirected Ana mitshakker awy.I am tired from this topic, so I will do something more funny, for example listen to new album of Mohamad Fouad
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Post by topdog on Mar 3, 2005 16:00:12 GMT -5
At least reference a source that isn't biased and full of distortions and misrepresentations.
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Post by alexandrian on Mar 3, 2005 19:46:16 GMT -5
At least reference a source that isn't biased and full of distortions and misrepresentations. Hahaha...this is biased?...not at all buddy, I'd like to see some of your "sources"
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Post by Soomaal on Mar 3, 2005 21:12:55 GMT -5
Damn, 19 pages for masari , can't people just leave it at "masari are masari." People need to chill, the masari seem more Arab than anything today and thats what they are for the most part.
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Post by santana on Mar 3, 2005 22:31:48 GMT -5
hahahahah i know 20 pages on this... wow!.. exactly egyptians are egyptians..
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Post by topdog on Mar 4, 2005 2:04:24 GMT -5
Hahaha...this is biased?...not at all buddy, I'd like to see some of your "sources" I'd like to see you properly read and reference a source that isn't taken out of context. I've read racial reality's entire page and his website is cleary a masked attack directed at Aryanists and Afrocentrists, but he loses his credibility by putting forth even more ludicrous claims(ie, Nubians were not black).
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Post by topdog on Mar 4, 2005 2:44:22 GMT -5
Haha ;D "New World Black" LOL ;D People like Hoda Kotb or Colin Powell would be never called black in Egypt. They are 80-90% white(caucasoid), so how they can be "black"? . Colin Powell isn't 80-90% white. With populations like African-Americans, it isn't particularly feasible to assign perecentages of ancestry based on physical appearance and skin color. You can have lighter and darker people within the same family, that doesn't mean the lighter ones are more 'Caucasoid' in ancestry and vice versa for the darker people.
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