It is humorous how you attempt to avoid the information given in the response. I will say that you are correct, and I should have put my source for the quote, but he doesn’t state the exact transliteration of the phrase in the supposed papyrus document. But here is the Quote:
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[When we speak of the Nile Valley, of course we are talking about
4,100 miles of civilization, or the beginning of the birth of what is
today called civilization. I can go to one case of literature in
particular which will identify the Africans as the beginners of the civilization to which I refer. And since I am not foreign to the works of Africans in Egypt, otherwise called Egyptians, I think that should be satisfactory proof. This proof is housed in the London Museum that is holding artifacts of Egypt. In that museum you will find a document called the Papyrus of Hunifer. At least you should find it there. It was there when Sir E. A. Wallace Budge used it in his translation as part of the Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Papyrus of Hunifer.
It was there at that time, a copy of which is in the library of Syracuse University in New York, and I quote from the hieratic writing, "We came from the beginning of the Nile where God Hapi dwells, at the foothills of The Mountains of the Moon." "We," meaning the Egyptians, as stated, came from the beginning of the Nile. Where is "the beginning of the Nile?" The farthest point of the beginning of the Nile is in Uganda; this is the White Nile.
Another point is in Ethiopia. The Blue Nile and
White Nile meet in Khartoum; and the other side of Khartoum is the
Omdurman Republic of Sudan. From there it flows from the south
down north. And there it meets with the Atbara River in Atbara, Sudan.
Then it flows completely through Sudan (Ta-Nehisi, Ta-Zeti or Ta-Seti,
as it was called), part of that ancient empire which was one time
adjacent to the nation called Meroe or Merowe. From that, into the southern part of what the Romans called "Nubia," and parallel on the Nile, part of which the Greeks called "Egypticus"; the English called it "Egypt" and the Jews in their mythology called it "Mizrain" which the current Arabs called Mizr/Mizrair. Thus it ends in the Sea of Sais, also called the Great Sea, today's Mediterranean Sea. When we say thus, we want to make certain that Hapi is still God of the Nile, shown as a hermaphrodite having the breasts of a woman and the penis of a man. God Hapi is always shown tying two symbols of the "Two Lands," Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt, during Dynastic Periods, or from the beginning of the Dynastic Periods. The lotus flower is the symbol of the south, and the papyrus plant, the symbol of the north.]
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For more south origins we can go to Diodorus Siculus as he states:
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"They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians
are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris
having been the leader of the colony...And the larger
part of the customs of the Egyptians are, they hold,
Ethiopian..." (Diodorus Siculus, Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)
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We can even quote E. Wallis Budge as he states:
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‘The prehistoric native of Egypt, both in the old and new Stone Ages,
was African, and there is every reason for saying that the earliest
settlers came from the South. There are many things in the manners
and customs and religions of historic Egyptians that suggest that the
original home of their ancestors was in a country in the neighborhood
of Uganda and Punt.’---Sir E.A. Wallis Budge, Egypt
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Ptolemy's Geography Book IV, Chapter 8
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"Around this bay the Aethiopian Anthropophagi dwell,
and from these toward the west are the Mountains of the
Moon, from which the lakes of the Nile receive snow
water; they are located at: the extreme limits of the Mountains of the
Moon. 57*00 12°30 S and 67*00 12°30 S"
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asiapacificuniverse.com/pkm/A81.jpg[/img]Now for the individual who swears on his life that the Ta-Merrians were not “Black,” let’s deal with these quotes from the Greeks shall we?
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"...several Egyptians told me that in their opinion the Colchidians
were descended from soldiers of Sesotris. I had conjectured as much
myself from two pointers, firstly because they have black skins and
kinky hair...and more reliably for the reason that alone among mankind
the Egyptians and the Ethiopian have practiced circumcision since
time immemorial." (Herodotus, Book II, 104)
"Those who are too black are cowards, like for instance, the Egyptians and
Ethiopians. But those who are excessively white are also cowards as we can
see from the example of women, the complexion of courage is between the
two." (?) (Aristotle, _Physiognomy_, 6)
"Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because
of that the body of itself creates, because of disturbance by heat, like
loss of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports
this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations..." (Aristotle,
_Problemata_ 909, 7)
Dialogue:
Lycinus (describing an Egyptian): 'this boy is not merely black; he
has thick lips and his legs are too thin...his hair worn in a
plait shows that he is not a freeman.'
Timolaus: 'but that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt,
Lycinus. All freeborn children plait their hair until they
reach manhood...' (Lucian, _Navigations_, paras 2-3)
Dialogue:
"Aegyptos conquered the country of the black-footed ones and called it
Egypt after himself" (Apollodorus, Book II, paras 3 and 4)
Dialogue:
Danaos (describing the Aegyptiads): 'I can see the crew with their black limbs
and white tunics.' (Aeschylus, _The Suppliants_, vv. 719-20, 745)
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So not only do we have Greek eye witness accounts, we have the photographs and reliefs to prove it today. I want Mr. Alexandrian to post his picture up and compare it to the following images of the Kmtjw of antiquity and let’s see who is lieing in this instance. Also, I am pretty sure you are not ignorant of the fact that Kmt has been ruled by foreigners since around 600 BCE. So your claim to the legacy of the ancient Ta-Merrians is not found in fact what so ever and can easily be shot down.
Kurt Sethe / Richard Lepsius reproduction (description by C.A. Diop):
[2] Cheikh Anta Diop, _Civilisation ou barbarie_ (original French edition, 1981) / _Civilization or Barbarism_ (English ed., 1991), p. 66 (figure 17).
Figure 4
Yurco shows only 2 members per group
Figure 7
Hornung's distortion of the group order:
Photo 4
Yurco's distortion of the group order:
Also see:
Figure 2 for text of the scene which identifies the Egyptian group:
And once again I site for you this article by Dr. Clyde Winters
www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/8919/theory2.htmI will admit that the Hunefer document is still shaky at this point, but the other evidence is undeniable. So I want to see your counter evidence to the above information and to what was mentioned in the first reply.
• The supposed construction of Pyramids by Jews who didn’t exist by the time the last major one was built
• How the Kmtjw are not African people based on evidence such as……….
• That the origins of the Kmtjw do not have a southern origin
• That Alexandrian somehow is related to the REAL “Egyptians” portrayed by THEMSELVES and described by the early Greek writers (Please provide a picture of yourself)
Asar Imhotep
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