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Post by nobody you know on Apr 16, 2004 18:00:00 GMT -5
Before I started posting on Nazi sites I had no idea that people considered "miscegenation" a big deal. The amount of interracial couples I know that are perfectly happy and even have children together is so large, and they are such lovely people too. i could say something really nasty here about those opposed to it but i'm not going to
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Post by ramsharma on Apr 16, 2004 19:16:28 GMT -5
Interesting topic. I personally don't think there is anything wrong with interracial dating/marriage, since basically speaking, it is people's personal choice. I wouldn't do it myself, but I wouldn't impose my opinions on somebody else.
Speaking of Indian Americans born in the US though, this nifty chart delineates a vlucid picture:
Asian Indian Americans Husbands Asian Indians 54.4 (2,598) Other Asians 1.4 Whites 34.9 Blacks 2.3 Hispanics/Latinos 4.0
Wives Asian Indians 62.5 (2,262) Other Asians 0.9 Whites 27.9 Blacks 3.6 Hispanics/Latinos 1.9 As a whole though, interracial marriage rate for Indian Americans is about 10% for men and about 8% for women. However, the chart above shows that those born in the US are more open towards interracial dating.
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Post by Afro on Apr 16, 2004 22:45:16 GMT -5
I'm not AGAINST any form of interracial dating/marraige, and would never openly speak out about it, but I do have some of my own demons inside me that I would like to comment on.
I HATE IT when I see a black man make it up to the top of the latter in America, after a life of poverty around other black people, raised by black parents, and then at the high point in his life go and marry a white or Asian woman! I can't help but look at these Russel Simmons and Kobe Bryants and think SELL-OUT! They live there whole lives being poor black men, only to grow up and have a HALF-BLACk kid who will PROBABLY end up marrying another white person and then that kid will be practically white (In my standards). So now you haven't done SHIT to help your people and have basically given your money back to the people who want to rid this country of your kind.
When I see the average black male with a white/asian female I could care less for some reason, but its these damn celebs that get to me! Its like they do it to spite other blacks. Most of them white girls wouldn't be dating them blacks if they didn't have money.
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Post by Scoob on Apr 17, 2004 11:17:29 GMT -5
I'm not AGAINST any form of interracial dating/marraige, and would never openly speak out about it, but I do have some of my own demons inside me that I would like to comment on. I HATE IT when I see a black man make it up to the top of the latter in America, after a life of poverty around other black people, raised by black parents, and then at the high point in his life go and marry a white or Asian woman! I can't help but look at these Russel Simmons and Kobe Bryants and think SELL-OUT! They live there whole li ves being poor black men, only to grow up and have a HALF-BLACk kid who will PROBABLY end up marrying another white person and then that kid will be practically white (In my standards). So now you haven't done SHIT to help your people and have basically given your money back to the people who want to rid this country of your kind. When I see the average black male with a white/asian female I could care less for some reason, but its these damn celebs that get to me! Its like they do it to spite other blacks. Most of them white girls wouldn't be dating them blacks if they didn't have money. When a black person does well in society and rises up, they have already transcended the intertial norm of their race. You get mad that they don't support "their people" by marrying someone black, but did "their people" support them when they were working hard to be a celebrity? Maybe, maybe not. I don't really know the answer to that question. I know in the USA, there are many college-educated black females, but not many college-educated black men. They are left with a big problem: they'd like to marry a black man, but can't find one good enough for them, so they look outside their race. I don't blame them. After they worked so hard to make it in the world, why should they settle for some loser who smokes pot all day and whose biggest aspirations are to be a "true thug" or "player."
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Post by Afro on Apr 17, 2004 12:23:24 GMT -5
When a black person does well in society and rises up, they have already transcended the intertial norm of their race. You get mad that they don't support "their people" by marrying someone black, but did "their people" support them when they were working hard to be a celebrity? Maybe, maybe not. I don't really know the answer to that question.Like I just stated,most of them lived around black people all there life, black parents, black siblings, black cousins, black grand parents, black neighbors, black friends, ect ect ect. And like I said, when there young, black, and poor most of these white girls (Regardless of how paranoid some of the white men on this board act) WON'T be giving a black man the time of day. Did black people support most of these people when they were young??? Most likely, I mean I'm not acting like black communities are some utopias where everyone is happy or they would never do no wrong against each other, but I know that for the most part blacks are happy to see other blacks doing well. And even if they weren't, white women sure weren't the ones supporting these brothers. I dunno, I just find it funny how most regurlar poor/middle class black men are married to black women but then you see these Kobe Bryants and Wesley Snipes marrying the first white/asian they see knowing damn well that if they were just regurlar brothers they would just be some other niggers to these women. I know in the USA, there are many college-educated black females, but not many college-educated black men. They are left with a big problem: they'd like to marry a black man, but can't find one good enough for them, so they look outside their race. I don't blame them. After they worked so hard to make it in the world, why should they settle for some loser who smokes pot all day and whose biggest aspirations are to be a "true thug" or "player."Well I feel that its mostly black MEN that are the quickest to marry out of race, but black women do do it sometimes, although much less, seeing as how most white men think that black women look like......black men. (How many people on this board have I heard say "they look mascaline" ?) But here's a good question for these black women, were these same white boys willing to even consider taking a black girl to there school prom??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I dunno, maybe I'm thinking too much into it or exaggerating things too much, but I just don't understand how these blacks could get to the top of the world as kings, only to take a white/asian for there queen. I wonder how Asian men feel though, they are usually the richest in America, yet there women still run for the white D***.
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Post by murphee on Apr 17, 2004 12:34:49 GMT -5
Thanks for your view from a Black perspective. I've noticed it too, how when a Black man is often successful and wealthy, he often marries a White woman. When I see successful Black men with Black women, I think, "Good for them. It looks like they have pride in their race." I've never understood how some people think Black women look 'masculine.' Often, they are curvier and more feminine-looking than White women. They just don't look White, which is where maybe the assessment of 'masculine' comes from by those who are not attracted to Black women.
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Post by Afro on Apr 17, 2004 13:12:51 GMT -5
^^^
Thats how I feel! ;D
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Post by berschneider on Apr 17, 2004 13:41:45 GMT -5
When a black person does well in society and rises up, they have already transcended the intertial norm of their race. You get mad that they don't support "their people" by marrying someone black, but did "their people" support them when they were working hard to be a celebrity? Maybe, maybe not. I don't really know the answer to that question. I know in the USA, there are many college-educated black females, but not many college-educated black men. They are left with a big problem: they'd like to marry a black man, but can't find one good enough for them, so they look outside their race. I don't blame them. After they worked so hard to make it in the world, why should they settle for some loser who smokes pot all day and whose biggest aspirations are to be a "true thug" or "player." Scoob, what you are saying may be true. I took a few classes in the USA (a long while ago) where I met two black girls who were reasonably well educated and they did not want black or Hispanic boyfriends or, God forbid, husbands, - not under any circumstances. The very notion was anathema to them. In one case the girl was black but her mother was Irish and she was brought up in a white family, so she sort of despised black people; that was a very weird kind of racism. In the second instance, the girl did not want to deal with black males because she - a young black (African-American) woman was convinced they are losers.
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Post by berschneider on Apr 17, 2004 13:50:13 GMT -5
Before I started posting on Nazi sites I had no idea that people considered "miscegenation" a big deal. The amount of interracial couples I know that are Although I am not a fan of interracial relations or of interracial marriage, I believe that intimate relations between two human beings, interracial or not, is a private business. Those people who are against interracial dating or having interracial children may lock themselves up in a zoo, breed in cages and sell tickets to the general public, - so we could all go in and admire their purity. Since most of those people are mutts of unknown origins, I don’t believe this kind of zoo enterprise would be an esthetically or financially feasible project.
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Post by nobody you know on Apr 17, 2004 13:52:12 GMT -5
intimate relations between two human beings, interracial or not, is a private business. yes now if only SOME PEOPLE *hint hint* would realise that
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Post by nordicyouth on Apr 17, 2004 14:22:48 GMT -5
I just want to say that it is interesting to finally get an African-American perspective on things, and the fact that Afro lumps Asian and White women together takes the steam out of many White supremacist complaints. I'm sure Black males are quite aware that if they have children with a White or Asian, their child will have some dominant African features, but will still look different, and may not be accepted by the Black community as 'true' Blacks. If you look at the lives of racially mixed people you find they cannot be taken for White, and aren't accepted by the other side either. Just because Whites consider them Black dun mean Blacks do too.
So please don't tell me that Tiger Woods having a Swedish national as a girlfriend is a coincidence that she is as 'White' as you can get. For him its a status symbol, for her its ca$h, but she looks like a goddamn liberal while she's at it. For their potential children, its a wealthy lifestyle without prejudice until they try to enter either the White or Black community, unless they can intermarry into these for the same reasons as their parents. Sad.
I find a lot of Black women in the mainstream media these days (usually backup dancers) seem masculine, but if you go back to 80s and early 90s music videos, they are curvy and hot - not skinny with a big ass and big tits. Although I hate it in White women too, I think they are more able to achieve the fake Pamela Anderson figure.
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Post by Scoob on Apr 17, 2004 16:17:34 GMT -5
I think one reason many white men don't go for black women is that they are too culturally different. It might not be so much that the sex wouldn't be good - just the non-sexual interactions would be too difficult.
But I notice that many black women do react positively to good looking white men. They might be a little concerned that a white guy can't satisfy them sexually, but there are plenty of well-equipped white men in the world. And they might have their own reservations about dorky white guys.
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Post by buddyrydell on Apr 17, 2004 21:55:32 GMT -5
There is another question here that springs to mind. Now that Afro and others have offered perspectives facing the African-American community and interracial dating, what do most here make of the East Asian girl/white guy phenomenon that seems to be fairly common areas of the U.S. and Canada with larger Asian populations? Some say one group has a fetish for the other group, but I'm sure there's much more to it than that. Assimilation issues perhaps? I'd like to hear from an East Asian perspective or from someone involved in such a relationship if possible.
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Post by nordicyouth on Apr 17, 2004 22:32:30 GMT -5
I don't have an Asian girlfriend, but I come from the place where this phenomenon is the most common and acceptable.
All the White guys with East Asians are usually 'nice guys' and are on the road to being successful. Thus, I thought Asian girls liked White guys (but those with a financial future) and nice guys couldn't get White girls who were becoming too complicated and preferred 'bad boys.'
However, a local newspaper did some research and discovered that it doesn't take 2 to tango - the WMs have dated many different women, while the AFs have dated mostly caucasians. They see White guys as a way out of a traditional life, and plus they have a certain 'masculinity' that Asinan guys aren't seen to possess. The nice White guy with an education and a good job is the best of both worlds - and the Asian girls drive these couples. Apparently E. Asian men are upset about this trend and think we are stealing their women.
WM/AF couples outnumber any other interracial combinations combined, so the KKK has to change its tune. lol ;D
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Post by buddyrydell on Apr 17, 2004 22:50:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply.
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