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Post by buddy on Oct 13, 2005 22:42:02 GMT -5
In your experiences, which seems to be the more dominant phenotype? I've seen plenty of these combos as I'm practically one myself (slightly more southern European in my case), but IMO it seems that there's a great deal of variation with these mixes. I've seen some who look very northern European, others who look 50/50 (probably the majority), and others who are very southern European in appearance.
What do you Dodonites think?
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Post by Educate Me on Oct 13, 2005 23:12:49 GMT -5
Most of the time they end up looking southern european at least in pigmentation, in my experience.
I am like that
My mother is spanish, my father is northern european looking ( 50% german, 25% volga german, 25% russian jew) and I look southern european.
My father wasted his precious recessive genes on my mother ;D
Today I saw on the street a young guy (early 20´s) with his wife and their baby, the guy was a redhead and his wife a mestiza, and the baby was brown haired brown eyed.
I thought, the guys at stormfront would go (dude, your recessive precious genes! you miscegenated them away!) mad if they saw that ;D
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Post by buddy on Oct 13, 2005 23:28:03 GMT -5
^Thanks for the reply. Actually, I don't know about the pigmentation usually being dominant. I've seen many blond-lt.brown/light-eyed N./S. European mixes. I think there's a balance with pigmentation, which I think is because both groups are still Europeans and there is considerable overlap between them. In both of our cases, the southern European traits definitely dominate. Not just pigmentation either, but facial features as well.
Basically, the only trait that comes partially from my mother's N. Italian/Irish/English/German/French side is my greenish eyes, but what's interesting is that quite a few of my relatives on my paternal Sicilian side have greenish eyes too. In any case, most people just assume I'm 100% southern European.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Oct 13, 2005 23:29:01 GMT -5
Being half-Med and half-Nord myself, I can definitely say the former element is dominant over the latter. I could pass as either if I wanted to, but I would have a much easier time passing for a Southern European than a Northern one, if by sheer virtue of pigmentation.
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Post by buddy on Oct 13, 2005 23:34:59 GMT -5
Being half-Med and half-Nord myself, I can definitely say the former element is dominant over the latter. I could pass as either if I wanted to, but I would have a much easier time passing for a Southern European than a Northern one, if by sheer virtue of pigmentation. ^Mike, I thought I recalled you saying that your "Nordic" half was actually Atlanto-Med British. If so, then combined with your Greek half, you definitely should look more like a typical southern European. Correct me if I'm wrong though. In my case, my mother is Keltic Nordic/Brunn according to most, whereas my father is basically like me, a Dinaricized Med with maybe a few Armenoid traits depending on who's classifying ;D.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Oct 13, 2005 23:44:47 GMT -5
This is true, but when I said "Nord" I meant "Northern European" and not "Nordic" necessarily, though I wouldn't be so quick to rule out such a component as the Atlanto-Med type in Britain is residual anyway.
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Post by buddy on Oct 13, 2005 23:48:05 GMT -5
^Oh ok now I understand what you meant.
I think in my case, pigmentation-wise I could fit in most European countries (despite being in the black-haired minority in northern Europe), though my facial features clearly place me in southern Europe.
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Post by Josh on Oct 14, 2005 0:14:35 GMT -5
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Post by Hairless on Oct 14, 2005 0:43:41 GMT -5
I don't know of any specific Southern European ancestors but I have a lot of photos from past generations and on my dad's side there always seem to be pairs of siblings with contrasting pigmentation. Like my dad's brother was very fair with light eyes and hair and my grandpa's brother was the same. Oddly, more people in my family seem to be blue eyed and we get the occasional brown-eyed person. Although I only know about 5 generations back for sure. I hope to figure out one day where the darker pigmentation comes from
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Post by asdf on Oct 14, 2005 1:56:06 GMT -5
I suppose I sort of fit into this. Though there's Turkish in there. My father's British Isles, my mother's assorted mediterranean. My sister came out celtic in form and pigmentation; I came out Morrocan /Levantine.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Oct 14, 2005 11:05:46 GMT -5
I had a half-Spanish, half-Swedish guy in my junior high class who looked like an albino - pale skin, light blue eyes, almost white hair. No one believed he was half-Spanish. No rule without exceptions.
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Post by freestyler on Oct 14, 2005 12:38:27 GMT -5
the notorious abdul is one his mother is nordic his father is a sicilian
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Post by MC anunnaki on Oct 14, 2005 15:36:58 GMT -5
You mean his mother is a Nordic who cheated on her Sicilian husband with the Arab mailman.
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Post by osservatore on Oct 14, 2005 15:41:38 GMT -5
You mean his mother is a Nordic who cheated on her Sicilian husband with the Arab mailman. Well, he looks way dark even for a "pure bred" sicilian, not to say for an half-nordic, but who knows, everything is possible. I'd suggest a black mailman, however.
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Post by osservatore on Oct 14, 2005 15:43:24 GMT -5
It is also to be said, that his facial features are very similar to my brother's ones!
Same lips, nose, even hair... just make him lighter and with chestnut hair, and you'll have my brother!
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