Post by kir on Jan 5, 2005 7:06:07 GMT -5
Ethiopian and Egyptian populations have high haplogroup M1 frequencies. Some people have suggested that M1 is Negroid, but my personal opinion is that the contrary since the founders of M1 back migrated to Africa 12000 years ago.
The slide from www.mcdonald.cam.ac.uk/genetics/mtDNAworld/eleven.html shows how M1 back migrated.
Scientist has commented this about M1:
“In fact, M1 could be a branch of the Indian cluster M as ancestral motifs of the African M1 are found in M*, M3 and M4 Indian sub clusters. Furthermore, one of the most derived M3 haplotypes in India (10398, 10400, 16086, 16129, 16223, 16249, 16259, 16311) has all the basic substitutions that defined the Ethiopian clade, excepting the highly variable 16189.”<br>
Even though M1 has been assigned an African origin, I think it has must have affinities with either West Eurasian (Caucasian), East Eurasian (mongoloids) or South Asian (veddoid) groupings. Because of the above I am inclined to believe that M1 is Veddoid, and similar to the typical Indian or Pakistani. People with M1 frequency, do show Veddoid characteristics, and this isn’t me, since the ancients have commented that Egyptians resemble North Indians. Also the skulls forms Upper Egypt are in an intermediate between the South Asian skull and the ones from Lower Egypt. If this is true then the original Upper Egyptians were similar to South Asians, the Lower Egyptians were similar to Middle easterners, and over the years the two cultures fused, with the Middle Eastern (Caucasian) type becoming more prominent, due to them being indigenous. Later a Negroid Element would enter. In conclusion, my theory is that Egypt and Ethiopia are melting pots for Caucasian South Asian and Negroid types, white Negroid coming later after the two. Saying this, however, I don’t think there were any cultural ties to South Asians, just genetic ties.
What do you guys think About Haplogroup M1, your free to say anything, It’s curtail since M1 is a bit of an outlier, in that it is unique in Africa. Feel free to kill my theory, I wouldn’t mind.
The slide from www.mcdonald.cam.ac.uk/genetics/mtDNAworld/eleven.html shows how M1 back migrated.
Scientist has commented this about M1:
“In fact, M1 could be a branch of the Indian cluster M as ancestral motifs of the African M1 are found in M*, M3 and M4 Indian sub clusters. Furthermore, one of the most derived M3 haplotypes in India (10398, 10400, 16086, 16129, 16223, 16249, 16259, 16311) has all the basic substitutions that defined the Ethiopian clade, excepting the highly variable 16189.”<br>
Even though M1 has been assigned an African origin, I think it has must have affinities with either West Eurasian (Caucasian), East Eurasian (mongoloids) or South Asian (veddoid) groupings. Because of the above I am inclined to believe that M1 is Veddoid, and similar to the typical Indian or Pakistani. People with M1 frequency, do show Veddoid characteristics, and this isn’t me, since the ancients have commented that Egyptians resemble North Indians. Also the skulls forms Upper Egypt are in an intermediate between the South Asian skull and the ones from Lower Egypt. If this is true then the original Upper Egyptians were similar to South Asians, the Lower Egyptians were similar to Middle easterners, and over the years the two cultures fused, with the Middle Eastern (Caucasian) type becoming more prominent, due to them being indigenous. Later a Negroid Element would enter. In conclusion, my theory is that Egypt and Ethiopia are melting pots for Caucasian South Asian and Negroid types, white Negroid coming later after the two. Saying this, however, I don’t think there were any cultural ties to South Asians, just genetic ties.
What do you guys think About Haplogroup M1, your free to say anything, It’s curtail since M1 is a bit of an outlier, in that it is unique in Africa. Feel free to kill my theory, I wouldn’t mind.