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Post by murphee on Jan 22, 2006 20:49:39 GMT -5
I never thought of Reagan as a WASP. When I think of WASPs, Connecticut Yankees of English descent come to mind--some of those rich folks I met when I lived long ago on the East Coast--the types who went to Andover and Haverford private schools.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jan 22, 2006 20:52:59 GMT -5
call them prepies.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 22, 2006 20:53:22 GMT -5
I never thought of Reagan as a WASP. When I think of WASPs, Connecticut Yankees of English descent come to mind--some of those rich folks I met when I lived long ago on the East Coast--the types who went to Andover and Haverford private schools. The North Shore of Long Island to Bar Harbor Yes. They had an entire private education system from cradle to career. They'd recruit "ethnics" and pay for their education at the Dalton School, The Friends Academy, etc. then up through Ivy. In fact, they still do. Just go and see MIT. It's still a Northeastern thing.
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Post by murphee on Jan 22, 2006 20:55:26 GMT -5
Yep, preppies. I was part of the East Coast upper class, and I noticed that it largely consisted of WASPS and Jews.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 22, 2006 21:08:55 GMT -5
Yep, preppies. I was part of the East Coast upper class, and I noticed that it largely consisted of WASPS and Jews. The Pres I like the European shift that's occured on the East Coast. People show their colors on their cars. A. Bartlett Giamatti. Now *that's* assimilation ;D I guess I should point out that this dude was President of Yale before he was a baseball commisioner. Don't forget Scalia, Alito (maybe).
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Post by buddy on Jan 22, 2006 21:14:47 GMT -5
^Yes, Italian-Americans and other ethnic whites have made significant inroads into the upper echelons of American society, but if you look at Ivy League universities, most white students are WASPs and Jewish-Americans. White Catholics are still largely left out. In fact, I believe that Italian-Americans are the most underrepresented ethnic group in the Ivy League. Samuel Alito and Antonin Scalia are rather exceptional in this regard.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 22, 2006 21:18:25 GMT -5
^Yes, Italian-Americans and other ethnic whites have made significant inroads into the upper echelons of American society, but if you look at Ivy League universities, most white students are WASPs and Jews. White Catholics are still largely left out. In fact, I believe that Italian-Americans are the most underrepresented ethnic group in the Ivy League. Samuel Alito and Antonin Scalia are rather exceptional in this regard. Well if you can't get respect one way, you too might just get it another.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jan 22, 2006 21:23:03 GMT -5
^Yes, Italian-Americans and other ethnic whites have made significant inroads into the upper echelons of American society, but if you look at Ivy League universities, most white students are WASPs and Jewish-Americans. White Catholics are still largely left out. In fact, I believe that Italian-Americans are the most underrepresented ethnic group in the Ivy League. Samuel Alito and Antonin Scalia are rather exceptional in this regard. Nonsense,your falling into the old bullshit,deceit and lies of old turn of the 20th century America and internet junkies spam about. Italians where the earliest explorers,pioneers,and statesmen and soldiers in the Americas. That includes the American Revolution and signing of the Declaration of Independence. Italians have more of a right to be then half the so-called WASP's.
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Post by buddy on Jan 22, 2006 21:23:46 GMT -5
^Annienormanna,
Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean.
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Post by Jack Reed on Jan 22, 2006 21:24:45 GMT -5
I never thought of Reagan as a WASP. When I think of WASPs, Connecticut Yankees of English descent come to mind--some of those rich folks I met when I lived long ago on the East Coast--the types who went to Andover and Haverford private schools. I'm the same way. I always think about rich people from New England when I think about WASP's. You know, it's families like the Cabots and the Lodges. John Kerry, although he has paternal Jewish ancestry, is a blue-blooded WASP IMO.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 22, 2006 21:40:08 GMT -5
^Annienormanna, Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean. Sorry. The photo is from "Donny Brasco." If people are excluded from power they will grab power. No better for the Bush family, who profiteered off of Third Reich than the Lucheses, Columbos, etc. Political power is determined by who holds the keys to the jails.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 22, 2006 21:49:04 GMT -5
^Yes, Italian-Americans and other ethnic whites have made significant inroads into the upper echelons of American society, but if you look at Ivy League universities, most white students are WASPs and Jewish-Americans. White Catholics are still largely left out. In fact, I believe that Italian-Americans are the most underrepresented ethnic group in the Ivy League. Samuel Alito and Antonin Scalia are rather exceptional in this regard. Nonsense,your falling into the old bullshit,deceit and lies of old turn of the 20th century America and internet junkies spam about. Italians where the earliest explorers,pioneers,and statesmen and soldiers in the Americas. That includes the American Revolution and signing of the Declaration of Independence. Italians have more of a right to be then half the so-called WASP's. No Doubt! The problem is having to *leave* Sicily and Italy in the first place, just as it was for the Irish to leave Ireland.
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Post by Jack Reed on Jan 22, 2006 21:54:24 GMT -5
WASP's was an old political-religion-racial click that no longer exists. I don't know about that. You can still find pure WASP's in places like New England and Utah. There might be some in the coastal regions of the South. I think that California has a lot of them too.
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Post by pavel2 on Jan 22, 2006 22:03:46 GMT -5
I believe WASPS right now are going through a bit of a realignment, the true White Anglo Saxon Protestants are still there though the definition itself will change once families that emigrated from europe start becoming more established, once you start seeing russians/poles/czechs whatever of the 5th or 6th generation, fully americanized but still marrying exclusively other rich eastern euro families that have established themselves in America. this will sort of be the new definition of WASP, they won't be White Anglo Saxon Protestants....but they'll live like wasps. The Datcha will become the house in Nantucket, Christmas will carry into New Years...at least as far as the russians are concerned
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Post by pavel2 on Jan 22, 2006 22:05:08 GMT -5
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