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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 22, 2005 22:12:22 GMT -5
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 22, 2005 22:14:17 GMT -5
It's posts, not post (I know, I forgot to put "s") . The refutation of what you advanced, is included in my first post on the previous page.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 22, 2005 22:16:52 GMT -5
ummm.... the attack was directed at Spaniards (Iberians in general) on Dodona. How is this hypocritical considering I stated this in the beginning? Do you even know what hypocrisy means?
ummmm.. what is the title of the thread? and so why are you brining Italians into this... oh, i see.. you can't find any Spaniards. Why don't you just say so.
Excellent. You're finally learning you just can't make claims without proof. I'm sure yoru revelation will just as stunning as quoting what an Italian says about Northern Italians rather than what Iberians have to say about themselves. Maybe you have a tendency to confuse all us meds together.
I didn't see it. When I opened this thread all I saw was your post and dingding. I'll answer it now (while I watch the news.)
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 22, 2005 22:40:47 GMT -5
Are you on drugs or what? have you at least read from the start why I posted what thay guy said? here is the start of all this matter. what really amazes me is when some northern italians, try to seperate themselves from meds, and especially from southern italians and sicilians. Can you believe this shit? ----> [.............................................................................................................................] Anyway I'm gonna sleep now, so we'll continue tomorrow.
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Post by stella22 on Dec 22, 2005 22:51:32 GMT -5
Nobody is guilty. Nobody is being accused of any crime so just chill. I just wanted to have a discussion about something I noticed. But since some of you seem so insulted by the topic of discussion, we won't get anywhere. BTW, stop demanding evidence when nobody is on trial. If you are waiting for a bunch of exact direct quotes then just give up now. I reached my conclusion from reading many posts and seeing these patterns. *making sure to note how many people in the family have depigmented eyes/hair while failing to mention the ones with darker characteristics *(several times) when posting a picture or their mom's picture, telling everyone that the picture appears dark, but that they are actually much fairer- nobody ever mentions that they darker than they appear in the picture *telling people that their nose looks humped in their picture, but that actually it is concave- again, nobody ever says their nose is larger/more convex than it appears in the picture *posting PROPORTIONATELY more nordish looking meds than actually exist (open to endless debate so forget this one if you want to) *endlessly posting certain celebrities that are particularly non-med in appearance even though they are from med countries (sometimes the same person so many times it becomes like a joke) *when dark meds are shown (like Banderas or Cruz) someone will say that she could have blonde/blue eyed child or that Bandaras does have a fair daughter [as if this makes them less dark or smthg] *using words like refined and progressive to describe traits that are more common in central/Northern Europe
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Post by anodyne on Dec 22, 2005 23:18:34 GMT -5
That was just stupid. I expect better wit even from you. If you make a claim then you're obligated to provide proof to that that claim or else no one should take you seriously. If you're nto willing to provide proof when asked then don't make a claim. That's just common sense. Another example of your razor sharp wit. Obviously I do matter or else you wouldn't be responding. I suppose in yoru world asking for evidence for a claim is considered "Whining." But then again yoru world involves shooting "sand monkleys." Not exactly a world of reason. I'm so insignificant that you're responding to my posts. This is why I cringe whenever you mention the word logic. How am i suppose to laugh at my "own hypocrisy" if I'm not a hypocrite? You don't even know what the word means as you proved in your other post. Ionly apologize when I'm wrong. Ah, now THAT is hypocrisy! ummm... I act like an "ass" because I aksed you for evidence and you refuse to provide it? Jesus, I'm reading this as I go along. So far you're just ranting like an unhappy teenager. Some people consider having others point out the facts about them insulting. Not surprising. Tell that to dukeofpain because the thread lasted a few more pages after you left. Unlike yourself I'm not fooled into thinking people will change their views. I simply prefer to state the truth for the sake stating the truth. ummmm... I'm not even sure you got the right thread on your mind. Actually, people do listen to what he has to say. Whether you or I take him seriously or not. He's even correct on some points. When he is I don't bother arguing with him. Racist, perhaps not. Irrational hatred towards mulsims, yes. That link you gave goes right back to this thread - weird. Also, most Lebanese immigrants to France aren't Muslim. WTF? that link just goes back to this thread, too. Also, of course you don't wantto put all "Lebs" in teh same bag. You don't wnat to confuse teh Christians with those damn "sand monkeys." Ummm..... I'm a bit confused to what you're trying to prove. You called Arabs "sand monkeys" but now you show that you like Christian Arabs. As if this somehow negates your derogatory remark. Sort of like saying "there are good niggers and then there are bad niggers." This is the entire post: The Iranian people are not the same as the Iranian government. The same goes in any country. Shia Islam is a modified form of Islam with pre-Islamic, if you will Aryan or Zoroastrian, cultural elements. The pre-Islamic elements among Arabs are found among Bedouins. A lot of scared to shit filthy Zionists posted in this thread. I'm not talking about all Iranians, I'm talking about their thugish theocratic governement, their mullahs, and the puke-drooling Iranian sand bastards who support their fascistic ideology. Iranians in general, are far more tolerant than the majority of muslims. You only have to see their diaspora to realise they're the least islamic and the most educated of all muslims. Also, note that the most aggressive anti-islamic websites are usually run by Iranians. So unlike the likes of you, I don't generalize. When I talk about muslims I don't talk about all middle-easterns, and when I talk about Iran, I don't talk about all Iranians. You also talk about filthy zionists, now you display your real inside, tell me kid, are you a filthy islamic punk, or just, one of those 70-IQ dopes, who post on forums like Skadi and Stormfront, and who see Jewish conspiracy everywhere? That just proves you're inconsistent. It was also a nice way to combat Glenivet's generalization of Israelis by pretending you don't do the same. But a few days later you do generalize. Your post to Glenivet was on the 9th of december. Your post in which, Annukai (and I) were offended because of your generalization was on the 14th. ------------------------------------------------- You are. Considering your history of ranting against muslims rather than attempting to debate rationally. You thought you could get away with making a derogatory remark after Annukai called you on it since you assumed she had the same view as you. But you thought wrong and instead of apologizing you went on the attack. Yes, she attacked you. Understandably so. You should have apologized and it would have been over with. I even called you on it before she did and you didn't try to set the record straight. I don't lie. I dislike them too but I don't resort to their methods. That's the difference between you and me. Hatred blinds judgement. I prefer not to. This is too funny. You show them respect by saying their prophet is a child molester and going on about how disgusting their religion is? It's on ething to debate the merits of a religion and it's another to just rant about people of the religion. Not in the sack [/i].[/quote] Lets see what other people have to say about that. People better skilled in this area. Sorry but your opinion is not one I take seriously. Yes, he deserves respect. But when he questioned your view you didn't consider it. Some people like to cling to false assertions. Human nature, I suppose. And how do any of those things you mention not involve race/ethnic groups? There's something to think about.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 22, 2005 23:23:24 GMT -5
ummm.. that was directed at Stella. You didn't start this thread. Stella did. Read her first post.
ummmm... okay... thanks for letting me know you're going to bed. Good night, I suppose.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 22, 2005 23:26:11 GMT -5
It's post s, not post (I know, I forgot to put "s") . The refutation of what you advanced, is included in my first post on the previous page. ummm.. so I (as long as anyone else) is supposed to believe that you meant posts on OTHER threads and not that one? If that's true why not simply say to Annukai that your posts on other threads give a more balanced and respectful view of Arabs, and Muslims (HA!) in general. You really have no one to blame but yourself for being unclear.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 22, 2005 23:35:26 GMT -5
We won't get anywhere because you refuse to show examples of wht you speak of.
Then we can't discuss this topic because we don't know if it's a valid topic to discuss.
ok, so I'm suppose to take your word for it? You're not exactly trustworthy. It's clear you used to post on this board based on your references to other dodona posters so forgive me if i don't trust your view, miss/mr mysterious. Some people already think you might be another manifestation of a past troll.
If you're not a troll and you're honest in your opinion then it would appear that you're the one with the insecurities. The proof is in this thread.
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 23, 2005 13:05:01 GMT -5
anodyne, check your PM.
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Post by hooligan on Dec 23, 2005 13:35:50 GMT -5
This may be a little late in the game because it seems this thread has jumped from the orginal subject, whatever that was. Two things, I don't think anyone here has really READ I.A's Droops or my posts, if so, this thread would have died the death it deserves, it's an ignorant observation from people whose only actual knowleadge of Spaniards maybe an Antonio Banderas flick,no offense to Antonio. Stella, I don't mean to be personal or intentionally mean, but your comments about us feeling some kind of superiority twoards the Indiginous folk of South American is dated, and as for us wanting to fit in or prove ourselves to Northern Europeans is laughable. If you knew ANYTHING about Spaniards, you would know the pride we have in who and what we are, this is probably the 6th time I've used those very words, the ones you continue to ignore. Go read some Cervantes, or the tale of Numantia and our wars with Rome. Read about how we were the first country the Romans entered, but the last to be subdued 200 years later. Pick up a book about the Cid or Fernan Gonzalez, hell....go pick up a travel guide and read about the the different provinces of Iberia. I doubt you'll ever know what it's like to be get the duel edge of racism not only from ignorant "whites" but also from 'Latinos" in this country, having to hear how my people raped their lands. No word from them though when you bring up how the Aztecs enslaved poorer tribes or how they flayed the land. Also, De La Croix ...I don't want to get in the middle of your discussion that you are having with I.A., but I read earlier where you stated that the "majority" of French are descended from "Celts" or Germans, I'm assuming you mean Charlamange's Franks. First of all , The Romans hated the Gallic tribes with such passion, many were wiped from the face of the earth after his campaining, it was truely one of the first acts of recorded genocide, and then settled in their lands, have you read Caesars "Gallic Wars"? Also, the Aquitani of southern France were "IBERIANS" who had over run much of the south.Dont' forget the Visigoths that held Provence with the rest of their non Aryan allies from the Black Sea area, such as the Alans, before they spilled into Catalonia. As for the majority of Frenchman being of "northern" lineage, it's just not true, perhaps near the border with Germany, but there is much Latin (Roman) and other Med blood infused there, plus the French Basque element. I hope that in the future we can have a true discussion and that many here will actually read what I and others post instead of skimming it and continuing to argue or comment on things they just don't know.
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Post by hooligan on Dec 23, 2005 13:39:21 GMT -5
Oh and FELIZ NAVIDAD to everyone !
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Post by Mr dark on Dec 23, 2005 13:55:10 GMT -5
Oh and FELIZ NAVIDAD to everyone ! Same to you!
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Post by stella22 on Dec 23, 2005 14:03:26 GMT -5
This may be a little late in the game because it seems this thread has jumped from the orginal subject, whatever that was. Two things, I don't think anyone here has really READ I.A's Droops or my posts, if so, this thread would have died the death it deserves, it's an ignorant observation from people whose only actual knowleadge of Spaniards maybe an Antonio Banderas flick,no offense to Antonio. Stella, I don't mean to be personal or intentionally mean, but your comments about us feeling some kind of superiority twoards the Indiginous folk of South American is dated, and as for us wanting to fit in or prove ourselves to Northern Europeans is laughable. If you knew ANYTHING about Spaniards, you would know the pride we have in who and what we are, this is probably the 6th time I've used those very words, the ones you continue to ignore. Go read some Cervantes, or the tale of Numantia and our wars with Rome. Read about how we were the first country the Romans entered, but the last to be subdued 200 years later. Pick up a book about the Cid or Fernan Gonzalez, hell....go pick up a travel guide and read about the the different provinces of Iberia. I doubt you'll ever know what it's like to be get the duel edge of racism not only from ignorant "whites" but also from 'Latinos" in this country, having to hear how my people raped their lands. No word from them though when you bring up how the Aztecs enslaved poorer tribes or how they flayed the land. Also, De La Croix ...I don't want to get in the middle of your discussion that you are having with I.A., but I read earlier where you stated that the "majority" of French are descended from "Celts" or Germans, I'm assuming you mean Charlamange's Franks. First of all , The Romans hated the Gallic tribes with such passion, many were wiped from the face of the earth after his campaining, it was truely one of the first acts of recorded genocide, and then settled in their lands, have you read Caesars "Gallic Wars"? Also, the Aquitani of southern France were "IBERIANS" who had over run much of the south.Dont' forget the Visigoths that held Provence with the rest of their non Aryan allies from the Black Sea area, such as the Alans, before they spilled into Catalonia. As for the majority of Frenchman being of "northern" lineage, it's just not true, perhaps near the border with Germany, but there is much Latin (Roman) and other Med blood infused there, plus the French Basque element. I hope that in the future we can have a true discussion and that many here will actually read what I and others post instead of skimming it and continuing to argue or comment on things they just don't know. I did read over those posts. I guess I was wrong, sorry. Take care, lucille
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Post by hooligan on Dec 23, 2005 14:05:52 GMT -5
You as well Lucille, pleasure to meet you, Merry Christmas to you and yours !
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