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Post by myg0ttehpwn on Mar 28, 2005 17:52:45 GMT -5
[/img][/quote] are you wearing makeup
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Post by Freehuey on Mar 28, 2005 18:14:56 GMT -5
i don't think it's possible in America...outside yes, I think Asians have the purest race, they don't mix as much...
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Post by racer1 on Mar 30, 2005 16:56:35 GMT -5
There actually are Nations out there that consider Eurasians an "ethnic group": Macau New Caledonia Phillipines French Polynesia Singapore Only 10% of Filipino’s have European, American, and Chinese ancestry like my blue eyed late 97 year old grandfather and my green eyed late grandmother on my father’s side. The majority of the Spanish that were there were Catholic priests or missionaries coming in from New Espana aka modern Mexico. I doubt they intermarry or have sexual relations with the locals unless if they like alter boys. So I wouldn’t classify them as Eurasians, just Asians with a westernized culture like Japan. The Spanish were busy in Latin America defending their colonies from other European/Indian pirates like Sir Francis Drake and Sir John Hawkins and other established European settlements. I’ve seen Indonesians before and they don’t look like a “Eurasian” mix. When I think of Eurasians, I think of the people of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, or other Turkic people descendants of the legendary Go-Turks that look like a cross between mongoloids and caucausoids thousands of years ago.
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Post by Anja on Mar 30, 2005 17:32:15 GMT -5
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Post by racer1 on Mar 30, 2005 17:44:08 GMT -5
The ones I met from college, the engineering professors, this music college professor, and a college buddy of mine look more “Malayian” Indonesian and Singaporean than a mestizo like those nice ladies up there. I thought those Indonesian women would wear veils since their muslims.
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Post by Anja on Mar 30, 2005 18:03:58 GMT -5
could you post some pics of different kinds of indonesian racial types?
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Post by racer1 on Mar 31, 2005 3:29:57 GMT -5
Some of the Indonesians and Malaysians I met look like this guy who’s full blooded Malayan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SukarnoAnd the few women I’ve seen who are from the east indies here in Chicago wear a scarf like other muslim women. They might have Arabian or Indian ancestry though from muslim merchant mariners that sailed to the east indies in the 1500's.
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Post by tokenguy on Mar 31, 2005 9:41:31 GMT -5
Only 10% of Filipino’s have European, American, and Chinese ancestry like my blue eyed late 97 year old grandfather and my green eyed late grandmother on my father’s side. The majority of the Spanish that were there were Catholic priests or missionaries coming in from New Espana aka modern Mexico. I doubt they intermarry or have sexual relations with the locals unless if they like alter boys. So I wouldn’t classify them as Eurasians, just Asians with a westernized culture like Japan. The Spanish were busy in Latin America defending their colonies from other European/Indian pirates like Sir Francis Drake and Sir John Hawkins and other established European settlements. I’ve seen Indonesians before and they don’t look like a “Eurasian” mix. When I think of Eurasians, I think of the people of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, or other Turkic people descendants of the legendary Go-Turks that look like a cross between mongoloids and caucausoids thousands of years ago. Although small the Filipino Mestizos are considered a separate ethnic group: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Philippines#Ethnic_GroupsHere is some information on the Eurasian community of Indonesia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo
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Post by Anja on Mar 31, 2005 16:08:44 GMT -5
what makes the malays different from say, a person from japan?
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Post by SensoUnico on Mar 31, 2005 23:57:23 GMT -5
The Malays are very different from the Japanese. I must say you are very interested in mongoloid Asians. Malays like most SE Asians are a composite people of Australoid, Indian and "Chinese" mongoloid admixture. The mongoloid predominates with the Indian a bit less. I said "Chinese" because the mongoloid part comes from South China as in Yunnan province. Do not mention that to Malays as they would be quite offended. They believe they originated in Malaysia. They call themselves Bumi Putera aka native sons of the soil. They do not like Han people. The Japanese are mostly pure East Asian like the Chinese, Mongolians, Koreans. They have some Ainu admixture, not much really and some Pacific Islander type admixture. You see the admixture mostly in the wavy hair some Japanese have. Example is the Japanese PM.
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Post by SensoUnico on Apr 1, 2005 0:18:32 GMT -5
I noticed you asked about Indonesians. Your timeline link is not very informative. The Indonesians as a nation only started in 1945 so it is a child country with a long past. Indonesians are a collection of Malay type ethnic groups with lots of different cultures, customs. languages and religions. Islam is the official religion and a belief in the one God is part of the panca sila, the five principles of Indonesia. Their motto is Unity in Diversity but they do not really live up to it. The Javanese, orang jawa, are dominant and have transmigrated to other parts swamping out the locals. The veil thing someone mentioned in just a consequence of nationhood. The Javanese were nominal muslims and used to eat pork and shellfish. Islam has taken off in a fundamentalist fashion only in the last 30 years. If you are interested in Indonesians try looking up specific ethnic groups like the Menangkebau, Bugis, Dayaks, Acehnese, Sundanese, Dalinese, Madurese and so on. Or look up specific islands of which there are thousands: Lombok, Bali, Sumatera, Kalimantan, Sulawesa. By the way the Indonesians are basically Malay types with a second dose of Australoid. The ancestors, nenek moyang, are described in their folklore like Australoids but more like negritos with frizzy hair.
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Post by Anima Eternae on Apr 5, 2005 2:31:57 GMT -5
I always get offended when people lump the Vietnamese in with groups like Filipinos or Indonesians. The Viet only have around 3% non-mongoloid admixture...the Chinese are at 0.5% and the Japs are at about 1.2%.
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Post by Anja on Apr 5, 2005 16:36:56 GMT -5
Interesting. Yeah, I guess I have a special interest because my best friend is Viet (and 1/8 Chinese), and we get to talking about the differences between Viets and Chinese sometimes.
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Post by Josh on Apr 6, 2005 1:52:49 GMT -5
I always get offended when people lump the Vietnamese in with groups like Filipinos or Indonesians. The Viet only have around 3% non-mongoloid admixture...the Chinese are at 0.5% and the Japs are at about 1.2%. So how much non-Mongoloid admixture do Filipinos, Malaysians, Indonesians, Thais, Khmers, Burmese, Laotions, and/or (insert Southeast Asian ethnic group(s) I missed here) have?
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Post by Anima Eternae on Apr 6, 2005 12:58:26 GMT -5
So how much non-Mongoloid admixture do Filipinos, Malaysians, Indonesians, Thais, Khmers, Burmese, Laotions, and/or (insert Southeast Asian ethnic group(s) I missed here) have? All I remember were that Indonesians were relatively with about 10-12 %. Filipinos were slightly lower.
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