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Post by Aria88 on May 10, 2004 21:57:01 GMT -5
Fascinating. Sub-human Slavs? And I thought I was supposed to be the Nazi around here, what with all these swastika tattoos and the portrait of Hitler on my arm.
I suppose some of are completely unaware of the symbiotic relationship between Iranian tribes and proto-Slavs, 1000 BCE-1000 CE.
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Post by Graeme on May 11, 2004 5:33:30 GMT -5
We are totally aware of it. That is why you brought up the thread - to claim some fame by association with the long gone Alans, Sarmations. Find your own legends and history and stop flitching those of other races or ethnic groups. The Arthurian legends are Brythonic Keltic namely Cymric nothing to do with any satemists, Iranians or Slavs.
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Post by Aria88 on May 11, 2004 10:51:50 GMT -5
I need fabricate no glorious past. I'll be the first to admit that Slavs (and Germans) are latecomers to the pages of history. The proto-Slav tribes and Goths were millennia behind the more advanced Iranian tribes of Scythians, Sarmatians and Alans. Even though more often than not these folk were ruminant, nomadism is not of itself less advanced that settled civilizations (The common belief is that nomads left their ways of life and progressed to sedentary civilization, but this premise is archaeologically inaccurate).
The Iranians who founded their eponymous nation were the inheritors of the most ancient non-Indo-European cultures, i.e. Sumeria, Akkadia, Babylonia & Assyria. They benefited from this legacy and added their own unique Aryan culture and blood. The aforementioned, mostly nomadic, tribes assimilated some of this ancient Mesopotamian culture via contact, but more so, they retained that Aryan steppe nomad way of life and perfected the art of cavalry warfare (which was brought to Western Europe by Alans -- hence chivalry -- the culture of the horse. There was no such strong, equine-based tradition amongst Romans, Celts & Germans). Furthermore, Romanesque and Gothic art and architecture are results of that of the Scythian/Sarmatian steppe nomad synthesized with late-Roman and early-Germanic art and architecture.
It is shameful that those who can be proud of their own people's past can so often denigrate the contributions of great ancient folk, who, it seems, didn't disappear after all. In the case of the Scythians, Sarmatians, Alans, etc., their genetic legacy exists in the blood of modern day humans as far north as Britain, west to Portugal, south to N Africa (i.e. "King of the Vandals and Alans") and as far east as China (there were tens of thousands of Alans in the pay of the Mongol Khan). It's more than just the tiny, semi-independent nations of Ossetia-Alania and Ossetia in Georgia.
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