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Post by stella22 on Dec 15, 2005 23:21:00 GMT -5
Blacks do tend to have lower IQs on average than any other race. This doesn't mean superiority of one group over another. Do you even believe this? Having a high IQ does put you in a superior position. This is why people want to suppress any evidence that indicates that there could be some racial difference in IQ. I'm not sure if there is a racial difference in IQ, but I hope that there is none.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Dec 15, 2005 23:21:09 GMT -5
Aroundthworld what percentage of the population is Black where you live. the blacks around me are pretty cool. It's about 20%. They jog and garden and stuff so I don't see the "crappy" ones. I just feel sorry for them b/c so many people lump them in. they are sweet as pie(my neighbors) and most in my community. Now as for downtown.... THAT IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STORY. Even blacks don't associate with those jackasses. I think it was Chris Rock who did a comedy performance. he says, "there's black people...and then there's Niggas". Ok, those low IQ, violent types are NIggas. Black people are different from what I've seen. They are afraid of "niggas". I see black women clutching their purses, racing out of predom. "nigga" areas and telling their children to stay away from those "niggas". I'm telling you pretty soon the fed up blacks are going to be tired of that crap and separate themselves one way or another. Lots of them are already in white neighborhoods "hiding out"...llike the blacks on my street. One black neighbor cut off their black family and their kids go to private school.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 15, 2005 23:29:53 GMT -5
Blacks do tend to have lower IQs on average than any other race. This doesn't mean superiority of one group over another. Do you even believe this? Having a high IQ does put you in a superior position. This is why people want to suppress any evidence that indicates that there could be some racial difference in IQ. I'm not sure if there is a racial difference in IQ, but I hope that there is none. If I didn't believe it I wouldn't say it, obviously. Having a high IQ allows you access to wealth and a superior way of living. Does this make a person much moral than another? no. So therefore IQ isn't enough to claim superiority over another. Do you think yoru doctor, who by chance has a higher IQ than you, is your superior? probably not. Superior in his knowledge of medicine, I would hope so. All the studies point in the direction that the difference is racial... although, I, like you, hope there may be some other variable. But hope doesn't mean much.
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Post by Jack Reed on Dec 15, 2005 23:47:13 GMT -5
Some people say Blacks have more testerone than Whites and Asians on average thats why they commit more crimes.Crimson do you think that could be an explanation. Negroids have higher levels of testosterone than Caucasoids. Caucasoids have higher levels of testosterone than Mongoloids. Negroids commit more crimes per capita than Caucasoids while Caucasoids commit more crimes per capita than Mongoloids. I think that Latins fall between Caucasoids and Negroids. Males commit far more crimes than females. Male prisons are much more violent than female prisons. Murders and rapes are unheard of in women's facilities. I'll leave it up to you to decide if testosterone is a factor in all of this.
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 16, 2005 0:06:51 GMT -5
I can't believe I have just stepped into a KKK meeting. :oThis is disgusting. "All blacks have low IQ's. All Black are pre-dispositioned to crime and murder. All blacks are violent". I cannot believe you all claim to be educated and rational but are spewing so much hatred and false information. You all claim that it's not socioecomonics and that it's been proven that black are just "programmed" to be violent. That's a bunch of bull. When is the last time you saw a violent gang of black college graduates or professionals? Middle class blacks aren't even remotely in the same class as this group of exaggerated "sub-human negroid scum" that you all speak of. You all are speaking with so much anger and hatred and basing this off of "news" and "statistics" which are about as valid as a Fox News Poll. When Colin Powell comes to your town, you'd better run b/c he might decide to murder some people. I guess that Wayne Brady scares you all, too because he is black therefore has high testosterone and a low IQ and is extremely violent. Yeah we know just how violent Whoopi Goldberg is...and that Oprah Winfrey...boy low IQ woman just leaches from the "white man" like it's no tomorrow. It is proven. Blacks whom are in the same socioeconomic class with whites, still commit far more crime.
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 16, 2005 0:33:32 GMT -5
Do you even believe this? Having a high IQ does put you in a superior position. This is why people want to suppress any evidence that indicates that there could be some racial difference in IQ. I'm not sure if there is a racial difference in IQ, but I hope that there is none. If I didn't believe it I wouldn't say it, obviously. Having a high IQ allows you access to wealth and a superior way of living. Does this make a person much moral than another? no. So therefore IQ isn't enough to claim superiority over another. Do you think yoru doctor, who by chance has a higher IQ than you, is your superior? probably not. Superior in his knowledge of medicine, I would hope so. All the studies point in the direction that the difference is racial... although, I, like you, hope there may be some other variable. But hope doesn't mean much. Determining "superiority" over ideology is far more wishy washy than basing it on something tangible , like IQ. After all, people and consequently their morals vary, and all is relative. If you think people with a different outlook, ideologically, are "inferior" to yourself, you can, but thats personal and thus not quantifiable, as in, the ability to determine objectively. Which merely shows that it does vary and that talk of "superior" and "inferior", in this context, is erroneous.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 16, 2005 0:48:56 GMT -5
This is a post of mine from another thread whne I first started posting here which sums up my belief:
But what is morality? It’s the distinction between right or wrong. In simple terms what is right is what is free of error. What is the definition of an error? A wrong action attributable to bad judgement or ignorance or inattention. What is the ultimate error? That which leads to death. Now that we have that out of the way... To make the distinction between right and wrong you must make a choice. You must decide what is right and what is wrong. Violence can lead to death. If you accept violence as a moral value then you have to accept that the same can be done to you. In other words, your value can cause your death. Your value leads to your own death. Death, conflicts with life (obviously), and moral values exist to direct us in our life. So violence can’t be anything other than immoral. (Self defense, of course, is an act of violence but it’s an act of self-perservation so therefore it’s moral.) Another example, perhaps you meet someone who holds lying as a moral virtue. What are the consequences of lying? distrust from others. Lying would be considered immoral since trust is the foundation of human interaction. Without trust you can’t make economic transactions, or generally be part of human relationships, you put your life at risk because no one is willing to deal with you. ___________________________________ As you can see morality can be determined objectively. What values leads to life are moral.. what values leads to death are immoral.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 16, 2005 3:08:44 GMT -5
Anodyne when did you go hyperactive steller? Is Anodyne Systems hiring?
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 16, 2005 7:45:16 GMT -5
This is a post of mine from another thread whne I first started posting here which sums up my belief: But what is morality? It’s the distinction between right or wrong. In simple terms what is right is what is free of error. What is the definition of an error? A wrong action attributable to bad judgement or ignorance or inattention. What is the ultimate error? That which leads to death. Now that we have that out of the way... To make the distinction between right and wrong you must make a choice. You must decide what is right and what is wrong. Violence can lead to death. If you accept violence as a moral value then you have to accept that the same can be done to you. In other words, your value can cause your death. Your value leads to your own death. Death, conflicts with life (obviously), and moral values exist to direct us in our life. So violence can’t be anything other than immoral. (Self defense, of course, is an act of violence but it’s an act of self-perservation so therefore it’s moral.) Another example, perhaps you meet someone who holds lying as a moral virtue. What are the consequences of lying? distrust from others. Lying would be considered immoral since trust is the foundation of human interaction. Without trust you can’t make economic transactions, or generally be part of human relationships, you put your life at risk because no one is willing to deal with you. ___________________________________ As you can see morality can be determined objectively. What values leads to life are moral.. what values leads to death are immoral. Thats still completely personal. No one else is necessarily bound to that belief. Becuase of that, superiority and inferiority, based on "morals", can only exist in your own mind, or in the mind of anyone whom happens to belive the same thing.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 16, 2005 13:47:06 GMT -5
This is a post of mine from another thread whne I first started posting here which sums up my belief: But what is morality? It’s the distinction between right or wrong. In simple terms what is right is what is free of error. What is the definition of an error? A wrong action attributable to bad judgement or ignorance or inattention. What is the ultimate error? That which leads to death. Now that we have that out of the way... To make the distinction between right and wrong you must make a choice. You must decide what is right and what is wrong. Violence can lead to death. If you accept violence as a moral value then you have to accept that the same can be done to you. In other words, your value can cause your death. Your value leads to your own death. Death, conflicts with life (obviously), and moral values exist to direct us in our life. So violence can’t be anything other than immoral. (Self defense, of course, is an act of violence but it’s an act of self-perservation so therefore it’s moral.) Another example, perhaps you meet someone who holds lying as a moral virtue. What are the consequences of lying? distrust from others. Lying would be considered immoral since trust is the foundation of human interaction. Without trust you can’t make economic transactions, or generally be part of human relationships, you put your life at risk because no one is willing to deal with you. ___________________________________ As you can see morality can be determined objectively. What values leads to life are moral.. what values leads to death are immoral. Thats still completely personal. No one else is necessarily bound to that belief. Becuase of that, superiority and inferiority, based on "morals", can only exist in your own mind, or in the mind of anyone whom happens to belive the same thing. Well, under that reasoning we shouldn't judge Tookie or anyone else for what they do.. since morality is relative everything is permitted. Your argument is common among leftists and multiculturalists that you complain about. They are also children of the Plato- Kant- Hegel orgy.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 16, 2005 13:47:56 GMT -5
Anodyne when did you go hyperactive steller? Is Anodyne Systems hiring? It goes with being born super cool.
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Post by Educate Me on Dec 16, 2005 16:02:44 GMT -5
former poster italian stallion had as an avatar that dude dancing
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that is from space oddity right?
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Post by Batrus on Dec 16, 2005 16:13:31 GMT -5
I think high iq is the most important trait you can have. I would gladly exchange a millon dollars for 50iq points.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 16, 2005 16:28:15 GMT -5
former poster italian stallion had as an avatar that dude dancing -- that is from space oddity right? No, it's a random photo of an astronaut. The text is from a David Bowie song that came on the radio as I was driving about in my car being super cool today.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 16, 2005 16:28:42 GMT -5
I think high iq is the most important trait you can have. I would gladly exchange a millon dollars for 50iq points. With 50 extra IQ points you could make back your money in the stock market.. I saw right through your master plan!
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