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Post by galvez on Feb 27, 2004 13:55:04 GMT -5
Interracial dating is much more accepted in Britain than in the U.S. The number of interracial daters in Britain is constantly growing, and there is no way to get rid of the babies produced by these relationships full of love and intimacy. "They are simply two halves of another interracial marriage - he a white man from southeastern England, she a black woman of Jamaican-African descent - in a country where British-born blacks may be five times more likely to marry whites than in the United States." (emphasis added) [...] "A survey published last year found that about half the black men of Caribbean descent born in Britain who were married or living as married had paired with a white." [...] "Interracial couples walk hand-in-hand at London street fairs, with no apparent concern for how people around them will react. In television comedies and dramas, romance routinely cuts across racial lines. "In the United States there are much lower rates of interracial marriage." [ Mixed Race Couples Embraced. UMI Company. 1998.]
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Post by galvez on Feb 27, 2004 15:31:20 GMT -5
I found another interesting article about multicultural Britain from The Observer entitled The truth of multicultural Britain. The article states: "There are now more than four million non-white Britons - more than the population of the Republic of Ireland." [...] "By many measures, the Afro-Caribbean community is the most 'integrated', with easily the highest levels of inter-racial marriages ( eight times higher than those for blacks in the United States), while Afro-Caribbean women are doing relatively well in terms of employment and income." (emphasis added) This article also supports the claim that Afro-Brits are more likely to marry interracially than Blacks in the U.S.
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Post by geirr on Feb 28, 2004 4:56:52 GMT -5
The largest non white group in Britain is the Indian, Pakistani and Bangledeshi community, the fastest growing black community are actually Africans while the west Indians(afro caribbeans) are if anything decreasing. www.rense.com/general41/inc.htmwww.irr.org.uk/statistics/population.htmlMy experience with afro caribbeans and mixed white/afro carribbean isn't great as there are few in Australia but I think the reason why white girls date blacks would probably be because afro-caribbeans have assimilated more successfully within urban cities of the UK other than groups such as south asians who tend to date/marry within their group. Not all white British agree with multiculturism and colored immigration, here's the other side, check the author. "London is the ideal place to study the economic and social impact of Third World immigration into Britain. Not only does the capital contain more than half of the total number of the UK's ethnic minorities, but demographic studies have shown, that, given current immigration and natural reproduction rates, Whites will be a minority in London by 2010" www.bnp.org.uk/articles/immigration_poverty.htm
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Post by Graeme on Feb 28, 2004 8:28:02 GMT -5
The Brits are indeed more likely to marry interracially. There are no real racial ghettos in Britain. Asians (Indic types) and African/Afro carribeans can move and live anywhere in the UK. Opportunities are available to all especially in education. The USA has a type of endemic racism where Afro Americans and mestizo types are locked into certain areas and roles in their society. The black race card always turns up at every election.
What is more important are the believers in islam. They are most unlikely to integrate and will insist that their beliefs be respected over all others. There is an islamic leader here in Australia who had a military type camp in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney who said "I cannot do as the Romans", that is, assimilate to Australian customs, habits and traditions. The religion of Islam is obnoxious, arrogant and fanatical. It is those people we should be concerned about not blacks interbreeding with whites, which has been going on for centuries anyway.
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Post by Artemidoros on Feb 28, 2004 20:27:29 GMT -5
Not all white British agree with multiculturism and colored immigration, here's the other side, check the author. "London is the ideal place to study the economic and social impact of Third World immigration into Britain. Not only does the capital contain more than half of the total number of the UK's ethnic minorities, but demographic studies have shown, that, given current immigration and natural reproduction rates, Whites will be a minority in London by 2010" www.bnp.org.uk/articles/immigration_poverty.htmIndeed not all British agree but crypto-Nazi wankers like the British National Party are very few and operate in the exreme margins of the society. They have managed to elect a few councilors in a couple of problematic boroughs and that's about it. A. Kemp is again his usual self. Just because recent immigrants and "asylum seekers" have been thrown in certain unwanted areas, like the inner cities, along with the native chronically unemployed does not mean they brought poverty. Neither do the immigrants as a whole have criminal tendencies more than the whites. If you exclude a few groups like West Indians, Somalis, Romanian Gypsies the immigrants have much lower crime rates than the natives. I live in London and I know the problems. I am a recent victim of crime (criminal damage to my property to the value of £3,000). The same happened to my elderly Indian neighbour. The perpetrators are Irish tinkers. They are white as snow, nobody should confuse them with the Roma even though the Irish call them Gypsies. Positions like those of Kemp are laughed at even by British who are worried about immigration issues. The funny thing is many of the immigrants are also against immigration. The ones likely to be influenced by BNP and the likes of Kemp are the ignorant and lazy whites who, having never done a days work in their life, have to compete with asylum seekers for Social Security handouts.
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Post by galvez on Feb 29, 2004 1:29:39 GMT -5
Indeed not all British agree but crypto-Nazi wankers like the British National Party are very few and operate in the exreme margins of the society. They have managed to elect a few councilors in a couple of problematic boroughs and that's about it. Figures that their online ranting is somehow related to their frustrations which come from their lack of influence. I wonder how much it has cost the British taxpayers to absorb immigrants from South Africa and Rhodesia, many of whom have partial or no ancestral ties to Britain. I have heard about these Irish tinkers. They live like Gypsies, which is why they are called Gypsies. Ethnically they are unrelated to the Roma, however. They are vagabonds of Northwest European (Irish?) descent. Exactly. The ones attracted to the BNP position are the types likely to fit the stereotypes Kemp has given of immigrants. There is one racialist leader who belongs to Matt Hale's WCOTC who openly admitted to having been on welfare. His case was presented as one in which he deserved sympathy on VNN. The amusing thing about Kemp is that while he spreads lies about Southern Europeans by claiming they are racially mixed, British women (as statistics show) are hopping into bed with Blacks and other non-natives at a very high rate. At the movie theater where I went to watch Mel Gibson's Passion, every single young female of European descent dating interracially was blonde. So, it seems to me, non-Europeans like to target blondes because of their exoticness, and blonde females are receptive due to liberal attitudes and the popularity of Blacks and other non-Europeans among youths.
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Post by Artemidoros on Feb 29, 2004 12:50:52 GMT -5
The Brits are indeed more likely to marry interracially. There are no real racial ghettos in Britain. Asians (Indic types) and African/Afro carribeans can move and live anywhere in the UK. Opportunities are available to all especially in education. The USA has a type of endemic racism where Afro Americans and mestizo types are locked into certain areas and roles in their society. The black race card always turns up at every election. What is more important are the believers in islam. They are most unlikely to integrate and will insist that their beliefs be respected over all others. There is an islamic leader here in Australia who had a military type camp in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney who said "I cannot do as the Romans", that is, assimilate to Australian customs, habits and traditions. The religion of Islam is obnoxious, arrogant and fanatical. It is those people we should be concerned about not blacks interbreeding with whites, which has been going on for centuries anyway. There are actually areas in Britain that are inhabitted almost exclusively by minorities. Yesterday I was stuck in a traffic jam in Southall, west London. I counted 4 whites amongst hundreds of people from the Indian sub-continent. The sights, sounds and smells of Southall have nothing to do with London. Apart from the buildings you might as well be in Delhi. Well, last night I had a dream. I rarely remember them but this one was very vivid. I was in Southall and trying to catch a bus. When one came along I hopped on and to my surprise the driver was a woman in full Islamic gear. She ordered me off saying "Can't you see this bus is for women only". OK, only a dream but how much more surreal is it than the true story of the owners of a cafe, who had to extend their chimney upwards so that their Muslim neighbours would not be offended by the smell of cooked bacon?
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Post by HINDI on Mar 5, 2004 8:12:47 GMT -5
Southall is dominated by Sikhs though..
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Post by Springa on Mar 5, 2004 21:57:13 GMT -5
Here's a famous story about Southall: In 1981 (I think), there was an Oi music (which is a kind of punk rock) concert in Southall. Despite the fact that none of the bands were racist, and neither was most of the audience (including the skinheads, which contrary to popular belief are not all racists), the locals got really scarred when they saw hundreds of skinheads carrying union jacks. Then, somehow, the venue caught fire when one of the bands was playing and a huge fight began between the skinheads and local asian gang members. Next day, the papers said there was a "race war" in Southall and that's how skinheads started to be so completely associated with nazis as they are now. Ironically, the original skinhead movement began in the 60's as a mix between British and West Indian styles and all they listened to was Jamaican Reggae and Ska music. It was composed of whites and blacks. But to illustrate what has been said in this thread, they usually didn't get along with what they called "pakis". There were incidents where asians got beat up, and many times blacks were among the skinhead thugs who did it. Later on, the Nation Front, British Movement, BNP, etc... started to champion white power rock bands and recruit skinheads to their cause and it became a very different thing, without any trace of it's multicultural origins. Nowadays, skinheads are split between racist (nazi), non racist (apolitical) and anti-racist (left wing) factions.
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Post by nordicyouth on Mar 20, 2004 2:22:32 GMT -5
This is probably true that Blonde women are more targeted due to their exoticness. Even in an all-White society, many good-looking brunettes are passed over in favour of Blondes that on closer examination don't compare.
However, I think there is a difference between interracial dating and relationships and marriage (i.e. children). Obviously Blonde women are well aware of their exoticness and realize that a child with a brown or black male would not contain their features - at best the child would appear as a dark Italian - still a far cry from the mother's features.
As humans are genetically programmed not only to find their own ethnic groups attractive (esp. parental features), people generally want their children to have some of their features. Certainly Blondes realize that they are a minority, and an interracial marriage will not produce a blonde child - essentially they value their exoticness.
I've looked over the recent UK census, and generally racial mixing is occurring in London, which to begin with has a small population for such a major world city. The English, Scots, and Welsh that inhabit Britain are very ethnocentric outside of the urban megalopolis of London, and if they continue dividing up themselves (Celt from Anglo-Saxon), then they certainly notice the differences between themselves and non-Whites.
I live in a city and there is a great deal of interracial dating (Canada), and even the race mixing, though it seems to be everywhere is actually not serious at all. But in the small towns, rural regions, and prairies of Canada, minorities are few and far between, and people of pure Swedish, German, and Ukrainian descent can be found in huge numbers (e.g. Minnesota, USA (excepting Minneapolis, St. Paul). Anyone else notice a rural/urban dif.? Comments?
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Post by HINDI on Mar 20, 2004 9:11:20 GMT -5
Springa yes correct..and the skinheads got mashed by the Shere Punjab gang members...hard boys..
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Post by Indefens on Mar 21, 2004 0:43:06 GMT -5
The primary reason interracial dating is so much more common in Britain is because their black population is so small compared to ours in the U.S. Something like 14% of the U.S. is black, what is it in Britain? 5%? If that? All other things being equal, minorities tend to assimilate the best when they are very few. Once they, regardless of who they are, become more numerous, the natural human instinct to segregate becomes more noticeable. IIRC, interracial dating between white Americans and Mexican-Americans has actually gone down in the past ten years or so, as the number of Mexican immigrants has soared.
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