The Decline of the National Alliance

[galvez]

Comments appreciated.

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[galvez]

On a related note, Bill White of www.overthrow.com, who helped expose the corruption within the National Alliance, seems to have quit running his website. So before the information he has posted is removed permanently from cyberspace, I thought I'd save some quotes on this thread.

[Gliebe Cut Off From NA Bank Accounts, Accused Of Theft
Molz Moves To Re-Establish Control Of The Group

8/12/2003 4:30:35 PM]


"Staff payroll at the National Alliance is said to exceed $15,000 a month; down from more than $27,000 at the time of Pierce’s death in July, 2003.

"[David] Pringle, who collects some type of welfare check from the state of Alaska and otherwise lives on the income of his wife, Jo Ann, is paid $1,500 a month by the NA plus expenses to 'run the revolution' out his home in Anchorage. The Alliance pays his home and cell phone bill and travel expenses. (Pringle recently claimed in a Unit1 posting that he has driven more than '50,000 miles' on National Alliance business since hiring on in September, 2002.)

"Shaun Walker is paid slightly more than Pringle to serve as the Chief Operations Officer at NAHQ.

"Kevin Strom is paid more than $3,000 a month and Chairman Gliebe gets around $2,900 a month. NA webmaster, Evelyn Hill, is paid $800 per month and Resistance Records webmaster, Chris Evans, gets around $2,400 per month. Strom, Gliebe, Hill and Evans all work from their homes."

[...]

"[Kitti] Molz has suggested that since the NA is losing money and members, much of the paid staff work could be done by volunteers, thus saving the Alliance several hundred thousand dollars in payroll, benefits and taxes each year.

"The bumbling so-called 'gang of four'; Pringle, Gliebe, Strom and Walker, are now publicly calling for Molz’ resignation from the board and threatening to leak details of her NA membership to her employer.

"Molz and Streed have also alleged that Gliebe has been stealing inventory from Resistance Records and selling this merchandise on the European black market, according to an angry and threatening email [From: [e-mail]; To: Kitty Molz; Aug 12, 2003 3:15 am] sent to the Molz and the Unit 1 list this morning from David Pringle..."

[...]

"William Pierce gave Gliebe half of the estate settlement ($39,000) to help build up the Cleveland Unit. Instead, Gliebe claims he used the money to purchase the remaining inventory from the defunct European label, Nordland Records. The deceased member also left his large gun collection and library to the NA. Gliebe sold off these racial books and claims he used the money for his local unit. Most of the firearms, including some fully automatic submachine guns, were sent down to Hillsboro where they were added to Pierce’s personal collection.

"This is not the first time Gliebe has been accused of theft. The National Alliance Orlando unit attempted to depose Gliebe as Chairman last Summer amid allegations of inventory theft and financial mismanagement of Resistance Records. The NA board reportedly refused to back the coup attempt at that time and likely regrets that decision today."

Formerly at < www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp%3farticleID=5813 >.

[alex221166]

galvez said:

Comments appreciated.

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Comments? They are a bunch of rednecks that are showing their true nature. They are their own worst enemies.

It's a joke, really.

[Silveira]

I agree. From what has been observed until now, we can conclude that these people are their own worst enemies. They don´t even need the evil eternal Jews, if left to their own devices these nordic aryan übermensch would most likely destroy themselves.

[Vimara]

Date: 2001-09-29 07:37:09 PST

"The article below apparently got the good doctor worked up into such a frazzle
that he decided to have one of his cringeing flunkies file a complaint with AOL
that I was "libeling" him. When I pointed this out from a Compuserve account he
did the same thing with that one. So after putting me to the annoyance and
expense of opening another account, I have decided you all deserve another look
at just what gets under the pompous old fraud's skin so badly.

Bite me, Bill!

Brad
_____________________________
"Why I Broke With William Pierce
by Bradford Davis

To All Racially Aware Aryans:

I have devoted long and careful consideration to the writing of this open
letter to the entire White racial nationalist movement on the subject of
the National Alliance, and the reasons for my termination of my own
involvement with the Alliance. I have decided that it is a duty I cannot
shirk, however vicious and hysterical the reaction it will inevitably
provoke. Silence can kill, and I am convinced that silence on the subject
of the NA's many problematical aspects may yet kill our race.

It is customary in these kinds of monologues to go into a long and very
personal recounting of the whole history of one's involvement, naming names
and pointing fingers, and how one realized that involvement was a mistake.
I have decided not to do this, in deference to the many fine and devoted
people that I met in the Alliance, some of whom are still with the group
and who will unquestionably denounce and revile me for breaking ranks and
saying out loud what we all know in our hearts: that our precious Emperor
Dr. Pierce has no clothes. I am not here to tell my story, but only my
conclusions, conclusions I have arrived at only with the greatest of
soul-searching, sadness, and reluctance.

I will simply say that I phased out my own active participation in
Alliance activities in 1997, when as a member of the NA's "cyber-cell" I
was ordered by then NA cyber-czar Vincent Breeding to devote all of my
activities towards attacking a well-known critic of Dr. Pierce on the
Internet, to the exclusion of all racial matters. I resigned from the
Alliance in December of 2000 because I could no longer reconcile my
continued membership with the persistent and absolute failure of Dr. Pierce
to provide me with an explanation of the Hendrik Möbus affair, either
personally or through a general discussion with the membership,

It is time to puncture the deceptive and egregious myth of the
National Alliance as being the self-proclaimed "foremost racist
organization in the world". It is nothing of the kind.

The National Alliance is neither a political nor a racial organization. It
is a cult, the purpose of which is to provide a comfortable lifestyle and
retirement for its guru-like leader. A failed academic named Dr. William L.
Pierce originally founded it under the name "National Youth Alliance" in
1970. Pierce makes much of being a former aide to the late Commander George
Lincoln Rockwell. In fact, I have learned since my departure that Pierce
was in fact expelled from the original National Socialist White People's
Party in that year by the then Commander of the NSWPP, Matt Koehl, for
incompetence and theft of Party funds.

Pierce, as I mentioned, has made some to-do about his past as an alleged
former aide to Commander George Lincoln Rockwell. In point of fact Rockwell
disliked Pierce personally as an intellectual totally lacking in the
personal, physical courage which Rockwell so admired in men. Veterans of
the Rockwell period in Arlington recall Pierce with derision. "He would
show up at rallies, when he showed up at all, in his own car and wearing a
suit, trying to hide in the crowd," recalled one former ANP Stormtrooper.
"We called him Mr. Peabody after the cartoon character. He was an arrogant
SOB and looked down on anyone who worked with their hands or who didn't
have a string of college degrees."

Insofar as anyone can determine, Dr. William L. Pierce, who is now aged
65, has never actually worked a day in his life, with the possible
exception of waiting tables or something of the kind when he was in
college. Ever since 1966, he has lived off the donations of White racial
nationalists, which he has collected, through various mail order
bookselling schemes, businesses and fund-raising scams. He has other, less
reputable sources of income as well, as the record will show.

The National Alliance has been called "a racist version of Scientology",
and the comparison is not inapposite. A large part of the group's time and
effort and resources are devoted towards harassing, annoying, and
discrediting former NA members who break with the group, along with anyone
who publicly criticizes certain financial wheeling and dealings and general
skullduggery on the part of Pierce and some of his clique.

Despite what they tell you, not only is the National Alliance not the
"foremost racist organization in the world", but they are in fact one of
the smallest and most ill-regarded of the many sects and factions which
make up the American racial right. Pierce and several of the lesser
left-wing "monitoring groups" have recently claimed that there has been a
dramatic increase in National Alliance membership, but like so many of
Pierce's claims, this does not appear to be born out by the facts.

At any given time, there are less than 400 actual members throughout the
world. Their mailing list at its height in 1993 (when it was stolen and
passed around the Movement like a bag of popcorn) was only 2,000 names,
some of them subscribers to the cult's irregular magazine but mostly of
people who simply ordered books from their mail order catalog once or
twice. The A.D.L., who claim to monitor Pierce closely, recently stated
that even this list was now down to about 1,500 people. One recent defector
from Hillsboro, Sam Van Rensburg, recently revealed that actual signed-on
membership is about 200. According to former NA secretary and Pierce
confidante Evelyn Hill (yes, even Ev eventually had enough and left), the
NA is mostly maintained now by a core group of about 50 hard-core, wealthy
financial supporters whom Pierce has accumulated down through the years,
and who continue to support Pierce despite his total failure to produce
anything remotely resembling tangible political results in over three
decades of the group's existence.

In actual fact, the National Alliance is regarded with extreme suspicion
and derision by the bulk of the Aryan racial nationalist movement, which in
its aggregate numbers probably between 50,000 and 75,000 active people. The
NA's 400 is a drop in the bucket. Most groups ban NA members from their
meetings, and refuse to have anything to do with the NA, often due to the
violently anti-Christian nature of some of their rhetoric, but also due to
the strange and erratic behavior usually exhibited by their members.

National Alliance members have gained a reputation for being among the
nuttiest people in the Movement as well as the most personally repulsive.
Many National Alliance members seem to suffer from the psychiatric
condition known as "hebrephenia", which may be politely described as poor
bodily hygiene. More bluntly, one Klan group banned their local NA
representative from their gatherings because "he smelled like a goat and no
one could persuade him to take a bath." National Alliance members seem
without exception to be either extremely thin or extremely overweight,
although there are exceptions like the narcissistic Kevin Alfred Strom.
Strom, indeed, is so proud of his physique that he posted semi-nude
pictures of himself in his underwear pulling "beefcake" poses on his own
personal web site.

National Alliance members have been involved time and again down through
the years in bizarre incidents of neurotic and strange behavior, some of
them illegal. One of the more prominent examples of this is the bizarre
suicide of NA Colorado state Chairman Theon Tomcheff in 1993. Tomcheff
staged a drunken standoff with police in the street in front of his house,
waving a gun in the air, then fled inside and blew his own brains out.
Hardly an "Earl Turner" style exploit!

[Vimara]

In addition, the National Alliance has developed a reputation down through
the years for being--how can I put this delicately--sexually ambivalent? On
one occasion a former National Alliance member wrote, "I was in the NA for
over a year, until I became increasingly uncomfortable over the fact that I
was the only person in my cell who was a married man with a family. All of
the rest were strange, geeky men who either appeared to me to be
homosexuals or who could barely refrain from ogling my wife, kept on asking
me how she was in bed, that kind of revolting behavior. Many of them used
pornography and brought it to NA unit meetings to pass around. I think I
was probably the only cell member out of a dozen who was sexually normal.
There was this aura of sickly misogyny and homoeroticism over the whole
thing. I just got bad, bad vibes off the whole outfit."

William Pierce expelled one NA headquarters staffer, Sam Van Rensburg, for
allegedly asking female callers to the HQ for phone sex. However, Pierce
maintains as his North Carolina representative a man who is notorious for
beating the women and whose abuse of both his American first wife and his
Russian mail order bride were notorious and are legally documented in the
second wife's divorce papers.

Van Rensburg maintains that his expulsion was due to his questioning the
uses to which donated funds were put and also because he attempted to get
information regarding the most forbidden topic of all, the exact legal
structure of the NA and what procedures were to be followed in the event of
Pierce's death or incapacitation. As in all absolute monarchies, it is high
treason to speak of the death of the king.

One of the NA's most cult-like features is a pervasive dishonesty, a
lack of respect for the truth. This, along with their complete lack of
respect for the rights of others (most especially the rights of others to
disagree with them and criticize them and their leader) leads to excessive
and hysterical behavior of the kind we have witnessed for the past several
years. Cult members who attempt to leave are slandered, smeared, insulted,
harassed with phone calls and threats, their property is vandalized and
other acts of petty criminality are directed against them, apparently in an
effort to intimidate them into silence.

The NA like to pretend that they are a "revolutionary vanguard" in the
manner of Earl Turner, the hero of Dr. Pierce's fictional novel THE TURNER
DIARIES, but the fact is that another outstanding characteristic of the
National Alliance in real life is extreme physical cowardice. Dr. Pierce
himself has fled into hiding on at least two occasions to rather than
accept moral responsibility when someone has attempted to put his book into
practice. Nor is the cult's obnoxious practice of filing nuisance lawsuits
against critics exactly a shining example of Viking-like heroism.

Another interesting topic of speculation is the source of an apparently
almost bottomless flow of cash into the National Alliance coffers. When
Pierce lost a lawsuit to Morris Dees in 1996, in Bryson City, North
Carolina, and was assessed hundreds of thousands of dollars in civil
judgements and court costs, Pierce simply wrote Dees a check and paid him
off! Pierce regularly comes up with huge sums, such as the $200,000
necessary to buy the rights and inventory to George Burdi's Resistance
Records (which Pierce then proceeded to run into the ground.) We have
already mentioned the "Big Fifty" referred to by Evelyn Hill, but there
have also been repeated rumors down through the year that Pierce plays the
stock market with his supporters' funds, which is just as much a form of
gambling as David Duke's riverboat junkets.

But worse than all of the above, there have been a number of sinister
incidents in the past sixteen years or so which indicate that Dr. William
L. Pierce has made an active arrangement with the racial enemy. This
manifests itself in an apparently near-complete immunity from the ordinary
processes of criminal and civil law enjoyed by no other citizen of this
country. The examples of this bizarre immunity from the law are almost too
many to mention, and it is becoming increasingly difficult to explain away
this long parade of suspicious incidents in any way that's consistent with
Pierce's innocence.

*There is the 1993 incident where one of Pierce's associates, now resident
in North Carolina, apparently set up two licensed Class Three gun dealers
in Virginia Beach for a bust at the behest of the BATF.

*The same mysterious Pierce associate was wanted for questioning in two
serious incidents of sending explosive devices in the mail to Christian
groups. The Federal investigation by the postal inspectors was dropped.

*The same mysterious Pierce associate was able to quash a state grand jury
subpoena in connection with a 1995 multiple homicide in North Carolina.
There seems to be some question as to this man's actual identity; recent
research by a cult victim with the resources to hire private investigators
has revealed that the one he uses in the NA is false. (The investigators
were also warned off very sternly by the authorities when they started
getting too close.)

*Dr. Pierce has an inexplicable ability to enter Germany, travel about
freely at will, even give speeches to political groups and interviews to
news people, a privilege which is granted to no other right-wing "leader".
The German authorities have gone so far as to kidnap American citizens for
violating their censorship laws. So why does Pierce get to stroll through
Germany at will? Interestingly, Pierce's last little German walkabout was
followed by a spate of over 100 arrests of NPD members and others, almost
all of whom had met with Pierce in the previous weeks.

*In 1998 two convicted bank robbers, Brian Pickett and Todd Van Biber,
testified in open court and also to a Federal grand jury in Tampa, Florida
as to how they committed a series of bank heists in New England, and on
their way back home to Florida they stopped off at the National Alliance
headquarters compound in Hillsboro, West Virginia and dumped paper bags
full of stolen cash onto Pierce's desk in his office. So far as anyone is
aware, Pierce was never even questioned by the FBI about these allegations.

The most recent, and in many people's eyes the most egregious example of
this startling immunity to the law was provided by the grotesque Hendrik
Möbus incident. Leaving aside the question as to whether or not an
ostensibly Aryan racialist organization should be supporting and promoting
Satanic rock music (that will really rally the masses around us, eh what?),
it is more than time that Dr. Pierce gave us all a clear, concise, and
detailed explanation as to how it comes that the United States Marshalls
Service knew that a wanted Federal fugitive was staying on the NA property
in Hillsboro for a full two months, and yet did not enter the property to
arrest him and only served the Federal fugitive warrant when Möbus left the
property for a grocery run. Pierce's consistent refusal to address this
subject at all is, to my mind, the clearest indication yet that he dare not
address it, and that there are skeletons in Pierce's closet which render
him morally unfit to hold any leadership position in the Aryan movement, or
indeed be associated with it at all.

Pierce's latest project is of a piece with much of what he has done over
the past twenty years, i.e. demanding money from Aryan racial nationalists
to improve his own personal property. His latest boondoggle is a demand
that we pony up $40,000 to build a "meeting hall" on the compound grounds.
How, exactly a meeting hall way out in the back of the beyond, about as far
as it is possible to get from anywhere on this continent, will be of
benefit to the ultimate survival of the White race, is not explained.

What, exactly, will happen to all that land and all those buildings and
all that computer gear and all those books when Pierce dies, or as now
seems likely, when he is no longer able to conduct his own affairs due to
his advancing Alzheimer's? This we are not told. Who is Pierce's designated
successor? How will the transition to a post-Pierce National Alliance be
handled? We are not told. We are simply asked to keep on sending money to a
post office box and to trust in some kind of deus ex machina revelation yet
to come. It is ironic that Pierce has criticized Christianity as a "pie in
the sky when you die" religion. In the case of the NA cult's theology, even
the pie when Pierce dies seems a very dubious proposition.

Ex National Alliance members have come to me since my departure from the
cult and asked what can be done. My answer is simple: nothing. And nothing
SHOULD be done. The National Alliance is a dead end into which we all
strayed and in which we all wasted entirely too much time, money, and
effort. I wish Dr. Pierce a happy and comfortable retirement, and my
genuine best wishes that he may retain his health as long as possible. If
others choose to finance that retirement, that is their decision. My
decision is that I will no longer have anything to do with this particular
dead end, nor will I send William Pierce one more thin dime. You now know
my reasons for this decision, and I leave you to yours.

Regards to all,
Brad

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[Melnorme]

I am convinced that silence on the subject
of the NA's many problematical aspects may yet kill our race.

LOL. Such arrogance!

[Silveira]

I am convinced that silence on the subject
of the NA's many problematical aspects may yet kill our race.

Yes, the future of all light-skinned non-Jewish Nordic, Alpines, plus some acceptable Mediterraneans, known collectively as the "White Race" is dependant on a miniscule group of Hitler worshippers hiding in a compound in the middle of nowhere....