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Post by galvez on Dec 13, 2003 0:39:04 GMT -5
Recently my interest in physical anthropology has been increasing, along with my interest in some of the more non-mainstream theories on race. Honestly, I want to know what Nazi anthropologists -- or those sympathetic to Nazism -- thought, because by understanding such fringe "scientist-ideologues" does one gain a clearer view of history. I believe a lot of the nonsense spewed about European sub-races has roots in the writings of such ideologically motivated scientists of the early 20th-century. Recently an individual posted a link to HFK Guenther's anthropological material at Skadi. This guy's ideas have been disproved and he is seen as outdated by those familiar with the field, but I found his material interesting because he goes into detail about the physical traits of Mediterraneans and their supposed psychological traits. If he is to be believed, Mediterraneans are focused on enjoying life and are quick to forgive opponents, whereas Nordics are sexually repressed. I have not read his material on Nordics but a quick glance shows where his biases lie. www.white-history.com/earlson/hfk/reoehcover.htm |
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Post by Melnorme on Dec 13, 2003 9:44:46 GMT -5
You should also check out 'The Passing of the Great Race', by Madison Grant.
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Post by Melnorme on Dec 13, 2003 11:24:35 GMT -5
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Post by AWAR on Dec 13, 2003 11:41:18 GMT -5
Oh god, what a load of crap. I especially like his terms such as 'denordization', 'hither asiatic' ( it seems that every convex-nosed man is this hither-asiatic ). The maps are fun too.  I don't know how can someone take the time and actually write stuff like this. Did someone pay him to write this, or was he so delusional/politically inflamed, that he just felt the urge to write down all the fantasies that were running through his head. |
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Dec 13, 2003 13:11:56 GMT -5
Hither Asiatic=Armenoid
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Post by AWAR on Dec 13, 2003 17:51:45 GMT -5
If you look a little into it, you can find his arbitrary classification as 'hither asiatic'. According to him, spaniards are hither asiatics. |
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Dec 13, 2003 18:31:46 GMT -5
Actually the Basque anthropologist Telésforo de Aranzadi talks about an Armenoid strain in Spain.
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Post by Melnorme on Dec 13, 2003 18:40:40 GMT -5
Actually the Basque anthropologist Telésforo de Aranzadi talks about an Armenoid strain in Spain. Perhaps this is equivalent to Coon's mention of a Dinaric type brought to Iberia by 'Bronze Age prospectors'. |
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Post by AWAR on Dec 13, 2003 18:47:15 GMT -5
Actually the Basque anthropologist Telésforo de Aranzadi talks about an Armenoid strain in Spain. Dinaricization could have produced these armenoid-like types anywhere similar ingredients ( Alpinid/UP and Med ) would meet in similar proportion. |
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Dec 13, 2003 18:54:56 GMT -5
Dinaricization could have produced these armenoid-like types anywhere similar ingredients ( Alpinid/UP and Med ) would meet in similar proportion. He distinguishes between both types. The Dinaric strain Coon mentions in regard to the Basque and North Spanish populations is called West Pyrenaic by Aranzadi and Bosch Gimpera. |
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Post by AWAR on Dec 13, 2003 19:09:26 GMT -5
He distinguishes between both types. The Dinaric strain Coon mentions in regard to the Basque and North Spanish populations is called West Pyrenaic by Aranzadi and Bosch Gimpera. So, you wouldn't say the usage of the word 'asiatic' for inhabitants of some parts of Europe is a tad bit tendentious. I mean, these 'hither asiatics' have been the population of Europe far longer than the Nordic type. |
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Dec 13, 2003 21:03:49 GMT -5
Just a matter of semantics. Caucasoids didn’t have their origins in the Caucasus if you see it in that way.
The term Europeoid is a synonym of Caucasoid, including those who live out of the European bordes, as well.
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Post by Stribog on Dec 14, 2003 22:04:18 GMT -5
The Dinarics in Iberia were the Bell Beaker people, supposedly.
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Post by Dienekes on Dec 14, 2003 22:17:54 GMT -5
The Dinarics in Iberia were the Bell Beaker people, supposedly. The Bronze Age prospectors mentioned by Lundman and Coon are not Bell Beakers, they were maritime invaders from the Near East and of Armenoid type. |
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Post by Josh on Dec 17, 2003 3:27:13 GMT -5
Oh god, what a load of crap. I especially like his terms such as 'denordization', 'hither asiatic' ( it seems that every convex-nosed man is this hither-asiatic ). The maps are fun too. From what I read awhile back, I took Hither-Asiatic to mean basically any caucasoid type that was native to the Middle East and Central Asia, including Orientalids, Armenoids, Irano-Afghans, etc. However, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. |
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