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Post by Leader of the Barbarian Juns on Jan 31, 2006 12:11:37 GMT -5
White people dont hate Black people,please niggah lay off the crack and mellow out with some ganja,ya heard!
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Post by ndrthl on Jan 31, 2006 15:26:19 GMT -5
Melani, Toasty has as much Indian blood as Sir Winston Churchill. If Churchill was a "mestizo" because of a grandmother with Amerindian blood than I guess Toasty is, too. If, however, the common consensus is that Churchill was white, then Toasty is white. Mestizo connotes a 50-50 mixture, which neither Toasty nor Churchill are. So don't be a dope. How dare you imply that Toasty has no right to have an opinion on sub-Saharans. What does one thing have to do with another? (I'd love to have seen you go back in time and listen as you tried to convince people that Winston Churchill had no right to talk about different races, and furthermore as people laughed at you as you implied that he shouldn't rightfully be allowed into "White Only" establishments.) Is Johnny Depp a "darkie," too? --He has more Indian blood than Churchill and Toasty combined. Is he not allowed to have opinions on sub-Saharans, either? * Please explain your thought-processes. Ironically, according to American websites, Johnny Depp is classified as white. By US parameters only those out of the US who happen to have amerindian ancestry are called mestizos. Their 'mestizos' are considered white. Johnny Depp (he is a mestizo - european/amerindian hybrid, and he does look like one): img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=johnnydepp7vn.jpg ![]()
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Post by Sym on Jan 31, 2006 15:36:46 GMT -5
I don't see it. Depp is whiter than Drooperdo fe.
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Post by ndrthl on Jan 31, 2006 15:42:41 GMT -5
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Post by Sym on Jan 31, 2006 15:45:01 GMT -5
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jan 31, 2006 15:45:33 GMT -5
He(Depp)has mostly European Ancestry..just looks like a typical white type i.e Mediterranean.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 31, 2006 16:36:41 GMT -5
It comes down to why anyone hates anyone, specifically hating people you don't personnally know-- a lot of perceptional issues. But, it just shows how stupid and unthoughtful people are-- what I'm saying seems cliched to me. Some people, not all. That you think what your saying is a cliche is a matter of thought termination. The basic truths are the hardest to face so more than a few people would rather not think than even accept a comment about behavior and its consequences. Some people would rather die than think. In fact, the do. -Bertrand Russell-
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 31, 2006 16:42:17 GMT -5
He(Depp)has mostly European Ancestry..just looks like a typical white type i.e Mediterranean. He is part Cherokee, but it's more than forgivable 
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jan 31, 2006 17:09:21 GMT -5
Melani, Winston Churchill is "off-white," too? How about George W. Bush? --He's got Amerindian ancestry, too. And redheaded president Herbert Hoover. You can't shake a stick at a "white American" who doesn't have at least SOME non-Caucasoid admixture: whether Indian or sub-Saharan. It's silly for you to exclude them all from the white race. Even the Scandinavians--beloved of the neo-Nazis--have significant trace amounts of Mongoloid dna [see: Tat-C debate].
So by your measure, they're excluded too. Who, then, is white? Some redneck in a trailer in Mississippi? --Sorry. According to Dr. Mark Shriver 1/3 of all white Americans have at least some degree of sub-Saharan admixture. 1/3rd! So even Mr. Trailer-Park stands a pretty good chance of having non-Caucasoid admixture.
I myself may be a "darkie," too. My dad's from Portugal, and as all White Nationalists like to point out, between 1-8 percent of Southern Portuguese have sub-Saharan admixture. It's nowhere near the 1/3rd rate of White Americans. But it's still there--minimal though it may be.
I'm glad, though, that I talked to you. Now I know I'm disqualified about ever mentioning Eskimos or Chinese. Me being a "zulu" and all.
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Post by Sym on Jan 31, 2006 17:15:17 GMT -5
I think Melani teased Toasty because he's a Mexican-American (an ethnic group not much better off than African-Americans), not because of whatever he may look like. Maybe I'm wrong, but Drooperdoo seems to be reading way too much into it.
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Post by Igu on Jan 31, 2006 17:33:36 GMT -5
I myself may be a "darkie," too. My dad's from Portugal, and as all White Nationalists like to point out, between 1-8 percent of Southern Portuguese have sub-Saharan admixture. It's nowhere near the 1/3rd rate of White Americans. But it's still there--minimal though it may be. That is not correct, 1-8 % does not cover all your ancestry, this frequency has been taken from an average of DIRECT paternal or maternal lineages, which means that most portuguese have subsaharan ancestry, as for WASPs, it's only 1/3 because the admixture is recent, but as time goes most wasps will have Black ancestry.
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Post by Melani2333 on Jan 31, 2006 17:36:51 GMT -5
Melani, Toasty has as much Indian blood as Sir Winston Churchill. If Churchill was a "mestizo" because of a grandmother with Amerindian blood than I guess Toasty is, too. If, however, the common consensus is that Churchill was white, then Toasty is white. Mestizo connotes a 50-50 mixture, which neither Toasty nor Churchill are. So don't be a dope. How dare you imply that Toasty has no right to have an opinion on sub-Saharans. What does one thing have to do with another? (I'd love to have seen you go back in time and listen as you tried to convince people that Winston Churchill had no right to talk about different races, and furthermore as people laughed at you as you implied that he shouldn't rightfully be allowed into "White Only" establishments.) Is Johnny Depp a "darkie," too? --He has more Indian blood than Churchill and Toasty combined. Is he not allowed to have opinions on sub-Saharans, either? * Please explain your thought-processes. Ironically, according to American websites, Johnny Depp is classified as white. By US parameters only those out of the US who happen to have amerindian ancestry are called mestizos. Their 'mestizos' are considered white. Johnny Depp (he is a mestizo - european/amerindian hybrid, and he does look like one): img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=johnnydepp7vn.jpg ![]() Funny thing, I remember Depp from his first show in the 1980s - "21 Jump Street" -and on there he was not White - but Native American. I have followed his career ( hottie, hottie  ) and for most of his early years and he was always about his NA heritage, etc. Now, that he has mega movie staus and $$, he has magically gained "white" status. I do not consider him a real "White" (most Americans probably view him as white enough), but mixed race or White- Other aka Keanu Reeves, aka Christina Aguilera. It depends on what part of the country you are in and who lives there.....  For example, in areas with a lot of Blacks, of course he is white, but in areas with lots of Mexicans or NAs, he would not be white. That has been my experience. Any other Americans concur? ;D In America, most people who are 1/2 white + other race and look White can claim White status, except for Blacks (their standard is usually less than 25% Black to be White, depending where you live). 
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Post by Melani2333 on Jan 31, 2006 17:37:47 GMT -5
I don't see it. Depp is whiter than Drooperdo fe. I'm probably whiter than Droop, lol!  LOLZ! 
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Post by Melani2333 on Jan 31, 2006 17:41:22 GMT -5
Melani, Winston Churchill is "off-white," too? How about George W. Bush? --He's got Amerindian ancestry, too. And redheaded president Herbert Hoover. You can't shake a stick at a "white American" who doesn't have at least SOME non-Caucasoid admixture: whether Indian or sub-Saharan. It's silly for you to exclude them all from the white race. Even the Scandinavians--beloved of the neo-Nazis--have significant trace amounts of Mongoloid dna [see: Tat-C debate]. So by your measure, they're excluded too. Who, then, is white? Some redneck in a trailer in Mississippi? --Sorry. According to Dr. Mark Shriver 1/3 of all white Americans have at least some degree of sub-Saharan admixture. 1/3rd! So even Mr. Trailer-Park stands a pretty good chance of having non-Caucasoid admixture. I myself may be a "darkie," too. My dad's from Portugal, and as all White Nationalists like to point out, between 1-8 percent of Southern Portuguese have sub-Saharan admixture. It's nowhere near the 1/3rd rate of White Americans. But it's still there--minimal though it may be. I'm glad, though, that I talked to you. Now I know I'm disqualified about ever mentioning Eskimos or Chinese. Me being a "zulu" and all.  Please return from far left field. You are missing the point. P.s Any White from the South or eastern states probably has some Negro ancestry. Take a look at LA Senator Marie Landreau and check Elvis too! LOL!  
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Post by Melani2333 on Jan 31, 2006 17:42:00 GMT -5
I think Melani teased Toasty because he's a Mexican-American (an ethnic group not much better off than African-Americans), not because of whatever he may look like. Maybe I'm wrong, but Drooperdoo seems to be reading way too much into it. LOL! 
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