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Post by galvez on Dec 22, 2003 20:02:29 GMT -5
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Post by herrx on Dec 23, 2003 2:01:39 GMT -5
A perect hallstat like volksdeutche...
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Post by HINDI on Dec 23, 2003 18:38:18 GMT -5
yuck
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Post by ProdigalSon on Dec 23, 2003 22:54:18 GMT -5
McCulloch doesn't deny that the keltic nordic strains in the paleo-atlantid type are outweighed by the mediterranean element, so I don't see what this proves. She doesn't display any Keltic Nordic characteristics. If she's classified as "Nordish", why aren't most Spaniards who are genetically and anthropometrically extremely simmilar to the "Paleo-Atlantid" type.
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Post by ProdigalSon on Dec 23, 2003 23:04:11 GMT -5
She looks much better in other pics: When I first saw her, I thought she was a Spaniard. Spaniards are unequivocally the most attractive Meds, IMO.
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Post by rusalka on Dec 23, 2003 23:10:11 GMT -5
When I first saw her, I thought she was a Spaniard. Spaniards are unequivocally the most attractive Meds, IMO. I agree. Zorro was the first movie I had seen her in, and in that movie she was a Spaniard, and I was really surprised to find out she was actually Welsh. I have seen her older photos later, the ones before she had a couple of operations and I think in them she looks less Mediterranoid. Her eyes especially, and to some extent her mouth are totally different now.
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Post by AWAR on Dec 24, 2003 0:02:28 GMT -5
She is very beautiful, I thought she's mexican when I saw her in Zorro.
McCulloch's concept is probably the most obviously flawed ideology ever seen on earth.
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Post by rusalka on Dec 24, 2003 0:26:13 GMT -5
Send me the pic to my e-mail, and I'll attach it for ya -AWAR
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Post by galvez on Dec 24, 2003 3:34:35 GMT -5
McCulloch's concept is probably the most obviously flawed ideology ever seen on earth. Not to mention, his "ideology" tends to attract some of the most degenerative elements among those of European descent -- individuals insecure that they do not look "Nordish" enough, as well as "racially questionable" individuals (often not even Nordic) taking digs at Meds. Moreover, there are very obvious sexual overtones among Nordicists. One gets the feeling, browsing through their posts, that one is dealing with sexual fetishists as opposed to political ideologues.
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Post by racer1 on Dec 25, 2003 3:24:50 GMT -5
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Post by HINDI on Dec 25, 2003 10:58:34 GMT -5
This is Rhona Mitra, her dad is from India
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Post by galvez on Jan 18, 2004 19:33:51 GMT -5
Zorro was the first movie I had seen her in, and in that movie she was a Spaniard, and I was really surprised to find out she was actually Welsh. She looks good in Chicago. Perhaps Prodigal Son is right about the "Paleo-Atlantid" category: it could just be "West Mediterranean" or "Atlanto-Mediterranean" renamed for political purposes by McCulloch. There are swarthy elements in the British Isles from prehistoric times, even if they are a minority. Reflecting on my own relatives, I have come to realize that a maternal uncle of mine is UP with perhaps some Nordic, and that my father is probably mostly Alpine. So perhaps these UP elements, which I have to some extent -- at least at a genetic level -- are what got me the Paleo-Atlantid classification. Pigmentation comes second, which is why "son_of_saxony" insisted I was "Nordish" -- although many would disagree with him, drawing the line with perhaps what McCulloch labels "North-Atlantids," who lean more toward Nordic than Paleo-Atlantids and tend to have pure light eyes. All of this underscores that there's quite a bit of overlap among Europeans -- northern, southern and eastern -- and that deciding where one belongs is to some extent subjective because of the level of subracial admixture which has occurred historically in Europe. It's much easier and more convenient for the typical classifier to decide where one belongs when he is given information beforehand.
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Post by AWAR on Jan 18, 2004 19:55:23 GMT -5
I think it's fairly obvious that there are no "phenotypically pure" European groups. At least not according to the phenotypes that are given by anthropologists as being 'pure'.
Who says that for example Dinarics are not a pure form. Maybe some Dinaric-like types are a product of mixing between Meds and Alpinids, but who's to say that ALL dinarids are a result of a mix.
I think that racial, and especially sub-racial purity is vitually non-existant and it's believing a dangerous hoax to think that some ethnicities are synonimous with some phenotype.
McCulloch said that Swedes are 70% Halstatts, which is a lie that can only produce a sense of rivalry with Swedes who live there since time immemorial, but who do not belong to this exact phenotype.
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Post by Razmig on Jan 22, 2004 3:04:53 GMT -5
She is very beautiful, I thought she's mexican when I saw her in Zorro. McCulloch's concept is probably the most obviously flawed ideology ever seen on earth. Gee I sure wished they had more of those kinda Mexicans!
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Post by Marina on Jan 27, 2004 9:10:30 GMT -5
I agree, not the most Nordic- looking person I've seen... If people didn't know she was from Britain, she would probably be classified as Alpine or Mediterranean, right? Her skin looks really dark in this picture.
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