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Post by zathuras on Jan 15, 2006 13:41:01 GMT -5
First off, what is a roman nose? Can someone post a good example of one. Not on a sculpture either. I mean of a real Italian with a so called "roman nose."
How does it differ from the so called Jew nose?
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Post by gelaye on Jan 15, 2006 14:19:50 GMT -5
First off, what is a roman nose? Can someone post a good example of one. Not on a sculpture either. I mean of a real Italian with a so called "roman nose." How does it differ from the so called Jew nose? a roman nose is bulbous, but not neccisarliy convex, it is quite broad but not like a SSAs. it looks almost broken, its strong and masculine. a jewish nose can be any width or length but it is stereotypically convex and hooked almost, like some central asians (afghans and norther iranians/indians) the pic at the bottom of your pic looks like the guy has a roman nose.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jan 15, 2006 14:33:24 GMT -5
The Roman nose is also known as the Aquiline(eagle) nose. Has a Strong nasal bridge and fleshy tip,its convex.Mediterraneans and Dinarics share this type.
Jewish nose is more related to the Armenoid/Araboid form also know as the Semitic type..
Someone once posted a pretty good site on noses as this topic always reoccurs...sadly i did not save it.
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Post by buddy on Jan 15, 2006 14:46:17 GMT -5
Gelaye's right. Roman noses are not necessarily convex, but rather straight, just very prominent and rather large. This type of nose is most typical for European Dinarics. A stereotypical Jewish nose is essentially the Armenoid nose, which is often hooked or convex.
Some here have said that my nose is hooked, it's not actually. My nose, while long and fairly wide, is straight, making it a Roman nose.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jan 15, 2006 14:50:53 GMT -5
Straight nose is the Greek type..different nose.
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Post by buddy on Jan 15, 2006 14:53:40 GMT -5
Are you sure? I'm not so sure how to describe the Greek nose, but I think actress Melina Kanakaredes from CSI has the epitome of one.
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Post by zathuras on Jan 15, 2006 16:23:56 GMT -5
Is this a roman nose? It looks bulbous and a lot of Sicilians and Greeks have it. Some moroccan jews have this bulbousy nose shape as well.
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Post by zathuras on Jan 15, 2006 16:27:09 GMT -5
Are you sure? I'm not so sure how to describe the Greek nose, but I think actress Melina Kanakaredes from CSI has the epitome of one. See now I always thought she had the stereotyped ashkenazi schnoz. So many ashkenazi girls have that nose and look like her.
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Post by Platypus on Jan 15, 2006 16:48:00 GMT -5
No Sorvino has a bulbous, wide nose, very typical among some types especially in southern Italy
The roman nose is as Crimson said, Aquiline and sharp. and it can be seen on many Roman busts Caesar, Cato etc.
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Post by stella22 on Jan 15, 2006 17:04:30 GMT -5
Two different terms for the same type of nose- convex
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Post by Platypus on Jan 15, 2006 17:16:28 GMT -5
are you sure? I think the 'jewish' nose is rather distinc and more soft-flashy, the roman nose is rather lean or indeed average in thickness, not really bulbous.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jan 15, 2006 17:17:49 GMT -5
Paul Sorvino has a nose like Socrates.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jan 15, 2006 17:40:52 GMT -5
There are attempts to elide the "Roman nose" with the Middle Eastern "hooked nose," but the English had something very different in mind when coining the phrase. Short of the Middle Eastern merchant, they thought of the European version--exemplified by actor Chris Noth's nose: It juts off his profile like the blade of a knife. It is aquiline, but not "hooked". Another famous example would be Abraham Lincoln: Both of these personages present quite a different nasal profile than, say, this Palestinian: I think that the main difference is the tip--which is sharper on the hooked nose. Also the bridge. On Noth and Lincoln, it's a smooth transition, whereas in the Middle Easterner there's an abrupt break. Also Middle Easterners tend to have far larger noses, with respect to their other facial features--whereas the Roman nose is aquiline in shape, but not overwhelming with regard to the neighboring eyes and mouth. Here's a poor girl who underwent surgery to try and mask her "ethnicity":
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Post by stella22 on Jan 15, 2006 17:45:47 GMT -5
are you sure? I think the 'jewish' nose is rather distinc and more soft-flashy, the roman nose is rather lean or indeed average in thickness, not really bulbous. Yes, I'm sure. There are minor differences, but both are convex/aquiline noses of varying degrees. Just don't tell a European Christian they have a Jewish nose even if they do. I can guarantee they'll take it as an insult.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jan 15, 2006 18:02:44 GMT -5
John Lennon's one of the very few Europeans with the truly Middle Eastern hooked nose. If you darkened his auburn hair and threw Arab clothes on him, nobody would think he stood out in a crowd of Saudi oil tycoons.
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