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Post by Agrippa on Nov 8, 2005 10:37:19 GMT -5
Make a thread about them with examples given
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Post by Edwin on Nov 8, 2005 11:05:02 GMT -5
And there were Sinids in the Indus Valley as well?
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Post by $$$ FD $$$ on Nov 8, 2005 11:26:35 GMT -5
possibly mongolids not sub specific sinids - instead brachy crany metal age types.
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Post by $$$ FD $$$ on Nov 8, 2005 11:41:19 GMT -5
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Post by $$$ FD $$$ on Nov 8, 2005 11:45:05 GMT -5
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Post by $$$ FD $$$ on Nov 8, 2005 12:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by Agrippa on Nov 8, 2005 12:57:55 GMT -5
The Rajput is (mostly) Gracilindid (+Indomelanid?) - Caucasoid looking beside darker pigmentation. This Bhil is Weddoid influenced.: www.rextours.com/images/large/tribal-bhil.jpgBhils seem to be Indid (rather Gracilindid) with Weddoid and Indomelanid elements after the pictures I saw.
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Post by $$$ FD $$$ on Nov 8, 2005 12:59:27 GMT -5
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Post by $$$ FD $$$ on Nov 8, 2005 13:07:41 GMT -5
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Post by RUDRA on Nov 8, 2005 14:30:17 GMT -5
Predominantely yes, but there is still a difference between Pathan, Kashmiri, Sikh Nordindids and some other largely Nordindid groups, you find in the former clear influence from further North at least in individuals and in general form. The impact from later IE was not as big as that of the Dravidians in the region if looking at the modern phenotypes. North-western indian peoples are a mix of both Aryan and Dravidian input no doubt, but the Aryan impact is still the most predominant in the region. Plus the difference between Pathan, Kashmir, Punjabi groups would have token a longer period of time to form, and not something that just happened at the end of Harappan civilization. The Nordindid groups could have evolved the small difference in their long stay in india. We could even point out the pathans got a slight input from eastern Iran, the Punjabis a more dravidian input, and the Kashmiri stayed isolated in the Srinagar valley for the most part. I think Nordindid(aryan) is the main element found in north-west indians, being that majority of the male Y-chromosomes and half of the Mtdna haplotypes seem to originated in more recent western Asia. But I still believe that the early Dravidians played a very important role in the forming of modern Pakistani peoples nonetheless. Yet the Aryan(Nordindid) impact was important to the early Indus culture.
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Post by RUDRA on Nov 8, 2005 14:42:02 GMT -5
The Populations in north-west india is the most different comparing to other parts of the same nation. Some of these peoples(Pakistanis) would fits in other parts of India without a problem, but the majority would look out of place(even seem strange and exotic) anywhere else(trust me on this!). It's a rarity to find people who look like this in any other parts of India, but they are so common north-west India: Even this darker little more Indian looking actor, would still be set apart from rest of India because of his features:
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Post by Agrippa on Nov 8, 2005 15:07:12 GMT -5
If you want to see Aryan influenced Nordindids look at my Sikh thread. good examples btw especially woman and last male.
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Post by RUDRA on Nov 9, 2005 13:44:39 GMT -5
If you want to see Aryan influenced Nordindids look at my Sikh thread. good examples btw especially woman and last male. Thank you Agrippa, I guess we agree on some of the main points. The Punbaji Sikhs are good examples, but more so are the kashmiris. By the way Agrippa, I can't find your Sikh thread, what's this thread named under
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Post by Agrippa on Nov 9, 2005 14:04:22 GMT -5
If you want to see Aryan influenced Nordindids look at my Sikh thread. good examples btw especially woman and last male. Thank you Agrippa, I guess we agree on some of the main points. The Punbaji Sikhs are good examples, but more so are the kashmiris. By the way Agrippa, I can't find your Sikh thread, what's this thread named under Here is my post, just scroll down: dodona.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=raceclass&action=display&thread=1121993432In fact its easy to filter Nordindids out in India: Tall, medium- to longheaded with higher absolute measurements, narrow nose, lighter skin. There are other features but that are (usually) enough.
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Post by RUDRA on Nov 9, 2005 14:24:58 GMT -5
Thank you Agrippa, I guess we agree on some of the main points. The Punbaji Sikhs are good examples, but more so are the kashmiris. By the way Agrippa, I can't find your Sikh thread, what's this thread named under Here is my post, just scroll down: dodona.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=raceclass&action=display&thread=1121993432In fact its easy to filter Nordindids out in India: Tall, medium- to longheaded with higher absolute measurements, narrow nose, lighter skin. There are other features but that are (usually) enough. Thank you for the tread, and you are right Nordindids are the easiest filter out in India, they are the only true caucasoids of india. While the dravidians(Gracilindid) like the todas are more anicent.
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