Black Turks?

[Mike the Jedi]

You're right. Turks are Turks just the same. I'm just saying they aren't all descended of Central Asian conquerers.

[asdf]

Well, they are, just not all to signifigant degrees.

[koroglu]

A Turk seem to me more like a Native American than an Oriental... I see the Wolf in his eyes...

[Ponto Hardbottle]

gee said:

holyjesus said:

Forget those Tajaks or Uzbeks or Kirghiz or Kazakhs or other extraneous Turkic speakers. What do they have to do with Turkey other than speaking Turkic.

Tadjiks don't speak Turkic languages.

I never actually said they did. I only referred to Tajaks because you did in another post. I guessed you did that to make Turkish people or other Turks appear like IE speakers like Tajaks. My point was that referring to Turkic speakers like the Kirghiz or referring to Tajaks about Turkish people is irrelevent. By the way some Tajaks in Iran speak Turkic language and others Pamirian language, Not all Tajaks are IE speakers or even similar.

[gee]

holyjesus said:

gee said:

Tadjiks don't speak Turkic languages.

I never actually said they did. I only referred to Tajaks because you did in another post. I guessed you did that to make Turkish people or other Turks appear like IE speakers like Tajaks. My point was that referring to Turkic speakers like the Kirghiz or referring to Tajaks about Turkish people is irrelevent. By the way some Tajaks in Iran speak Turkic language and others Pamirian language, Not all Tajaks are IE speakers or even similar.

I never mentioned Tajaks. who the hell are TAJAKS anyway? And I never referred to Kirghiz. You like to imagine things, eh?

[Ponto Hardbottle]

gee said:

I think Tadjik have more in common (appearance wise) with Anatolian Turks.

You were saying! Liars have to have good memories.

[greatness]

Well now, Turk is another ambigous statement. Though Western Turks have some relations to their Central Asian namesake, they are not that similar genetically. They are a mix of central Asian Turks who had conquered them, Aegean like ppls who inhabitated Ionia and Anatolia before the Central Asian invaders, and Armenoids. Maybe a little bit of Iranid too. Eastern Turks in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan are much more purer, with a probably only a little bit of Iranid. Turkic groups in Iran on the other hand speak Turkic languages and customs, but are genetically Iranid. So Turk can mean a lot of things. Shahnameh, an Iranian book which describes the battles between Iranids, Turanids and Turks, is mythologized but still provides some good insight. I that book There are Iranids in Iran, Turanids (I'm guessing they are Uralic or Mongolid group) and in between is a mixture called the Turks. I suppose this is how the Turkic race came about and later spread to Anatolia. As for Negroid genes in Turks, of course a little bit, but far too insignificant for any purposes.

[ohes]

greatness said:

Well now, Turk is another ambigous statement. Though Western Turks have some relations to their Central Asian namesake, they are not that similar genetically. They are a mix of central Asian Turks who had conquered them, Aegean like ppls who inhabitated Ionia and Anatolia before the Central Asian invaders, and Armenoids. Maybe a little bit of Iranid too. Eastern Turks in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan are much more purer, with a probably only a little bit of Iranid. Turkic groups in Iran on the other hand speak Turkic languages and customs, but are genetically Iranid. So Turk can mean a lot of things. Shahnameh, an Iranian book which describes the battles between Iranids, Turanids and Turks, is mythologized but still provides some good insight. I that book There are Iranids in Iran, Turanids (I'm guessing they are Uralic or Mongolid group) and in between is a mixture called the Turks. I suppose this is how the Turkic race came about and later spread to Anatolia. As for Negroid genes in Turks, of course a little bit, but far too insignificant for any purposes.

Did you even bother to read the thread before posting? Leave the dead horse alone.

[greatness]

Ohes,

Well at least I tried. Why don't u at least actually post info instead of making stupid little comments.

[gee]

holyjesus said:

gee said:

I think Tadjik have more in common (appearance wise) with Anatolian Turks.

You were saying! Liars have to have good memories.

those are tadjiks and they speak IE languages. I guess you still think that I am Turk and want to talk to me more, right?

[Ponto Hardbottle]

What I think about you is unprintable. As for whichever ethnic group you belong to, I feel sorry for them.
Not all Tajiks speak IE languages as I mentioned. What is important is that you were the one who mentioned Tajiks first, then denied it. Credibility, zilch.

[gee]

holyjesus said:

Not all Tajiks speak IE languages as I mentioned. What is important is that you were the one who mentioned Tajiks first, then denied it. Credibility, zilch.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is incredible. Here is you stupid post where you were saying that you never said that Tadjiks speak Turkic languages, no you say the opposite, get some education, old fart.

holyjesus said:

gee said:

Tadjiks don't speak Turkic languages.

I never actually said they did. I only referred to
Tajaks because you did in another post. I guessed you did that to make Turkish people or other Turks appear like IE speakers like Tajaks. My point was that referring to Turkic speakers like the Kirghiz or referring to Tajaks about Turkish people is irrelevent. By the way some Tajaks in Iran speak Turkic language and others Pamirian language, Not all Tajaks are IE speakers or even similar.

holyjesus said:

gee said:

As for whichever ethnic group you belong to, I feel sorry for them.

And why is that? Because you think that i am Turk? ;D ;D You are mental case. Where are you from? Armenia, right? No way, some swiss will stalk Turks on the forums. ;D ;D

[Siafu X]

i can see a resemblence between Turks and Amerinds and how they might have a common ancestor they both got used to the horse pretty quikly and became superb riders hmm...makes u ponder

[Mjora]

Conclusion:According to the latest research there are 800 000 black turks.

This family is mixed.Their grand mother is the princess og Baga tribe grand father is Turk.


The man is afro-turk here.


Another Afro-turk.

[Mjora]

I didn't say black admixture I said afro-turks.I don't believe the black admixture in turks.