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Post by Vitor on Aug 27, 2004 5:43:55 GMT -5
<<Milk consumption alone is NOT related with diabetes>> Really is that fact?! To me its yet another bold, unsubstantiated statement without merit! www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/03/010322074643.htmwww.gentlebirth.org/archives/cowprdib.htmlThe only thing I know about Lactose intolerance is that it affects as many as 50 to 70% of people from an Asian, African, Native American, Eastern Europe or Mediterranean ethnic backgrounds. People with Northern or Western European ethnic backgrounds are far less likely to experience this intolerance. I'am sure Portugal has lactose Intolerance issue's far more than what your letting on to me,unless maybe their moslty Nordic germanic now,and displaced the ancient natives of yesteryear! But i really couldnt care which country has this or that like you do.... thats not the point I was making about milk! again that nordic crap! Do irish have lactose intolerance problems? their's genes are allmoust identical to most Iberians. Nordics are not entirely germanic. swedish (the less intolerant people of all) have more afinities with Iberians, than what you think! this is not the same thing... western mediterraneans and western europeans are the same thing, with a different phenotype! There are no people that I know that have lactose intolerance, if you told to the common portuguese that most africans are not lactose tolerant, they would think ->"bullshit" again crap... If nordic germanics are present days germans, I bet they have more issues regarding lactose intolerance than Portuguese... for your instruction 50% of portuguese (or iberian) share the same male ancestor of those lactose tolerant swedish 10000-20000 years ago, that number would increase if we are talking about the british isles. 95% of basques share the same male ancestor of the welsh people of not too long ago... That number would decrease sharply if we are talking about eastern GERMANS! So...your Idea of what is europe or what sub-races are in europe is WRONG!
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Post by Silveira on Aug 27, 2004 5:49:22 GMT -5
While the Portuguese are definitely not Nordic or Germanic, lactose intolerance is not a big problem over here. Most Portuguese regularely consume milk, cheese, butter and other dairy products and I have never met any lactose intolerant Portuguese person. The dairy industry is an important part of Portuguese agriculture, especially in the Azores and the Aveiro region.
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Post by Vitor on Aug 27, 2004 6:00:29 GMT -5
I didn't say we were nordics...
nordic is only some genes surfacing...promoted by the cold weather of higher latitudes.
there are "nordics" that do not share the same genes as others "nordics"
Race is more elaborate than some nordicist want you to believe!
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Aug 27, 2004 6:16:18 GMT -5
<<Milk consumption alone is NOT related with diabetes>> The only thing I know about Lactose intolerance is that it affects as many as 50 to 70% of people from an Asian, African, Native American, Eastern Europe or Mediterranean ethnic backgrounds. People with Northern or Western European ethnic backgrounds are far less likely to experience this intolerance. I'am sure Portugal has lactose Intolerance issue's far more than what your letting on to me,unless maybe their moslty Nordic germanic now,and displaced the ancient natives of yesteryear! How do you explain there are more lactose intolerant adults in England than in Spain, even though the former is significantly more ‘Nordic’ than the latter? England 32% Spain 15% Even Finland is more lactose intolerant than Spain, but in this case for a smaller margin. anthro.palomar.edu/adapt/adapt_5.htm
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Post by Vitor on Aug 27, 2004 6:18:09 GMT -5
because they are more germanic...(indo-european...aryan?...lol) and thus with less of those western genes? this again testifies the non existence of the nordic race! Or the med race for that matter...
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Post by Vitor on Aug 27, 2004 6:29:18 GMT -5
Mexico 83 % intolerance!
Kukul-Kan, is that true? I thought there was more Iberian blood in the common mexican...
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Post by Crimson Guard on Aug 27, 2004 6:41:22 GMT -5
The only thing I know about Lactose intolerance is that it affects as many as 50 to 70% of people from an Asian, African, Native American, Eastern Europe or Mediterranean ethnic backgrounds. People with Northern or Western European ethnic backgrounds are far less likely to experience this intolerance. >>
As far I know thats true,but I may be wrong or i may not be.Give me a legit study on the issue,and not personal opinion to disprove it.But thats what i read some time ago in some Science web-site(so maybe its outdated).
Like i said for the 100th time i dont care about which country thing battle.I made a point of how cow milk is not heatlhy for humans period. I gave links that explain the issue and prove that its linked to health problems.
<<,unless maybe their moslty Nordic germanic now,and displaced the ancient natives of yesteryear! >>
That was an obvious sarcastic joke !Guess no sence of humor!
So Where is any of that Nordic crap?? Some of you guys are so obsesssive and over protective you end up dence & confused,its seriously not good.
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Post by Vitor on Aug 27, 2004 6:47:34 GMT -5
heeee... I am not protecting anything... We are not NORDIC! PERIOD! Ok... But we (portuguese) aren't eastern mediterraneans either! (Maybe only alex, his ancestors also come from greece...)Again there is less difference (genetically) between a swedish and a portuguese, than between a greek and the common portuguese. although they might look similar... THe north/south genetic division is artificial! I believe the most substancial division is between west and east! not north/south.
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Post by Vitor on Aug 27, 2004 6:52:03 GMT -5
It's not false data! although they generalised a bit, some mediteraneans (like greeks) are mostly intolerant. (true)
They said also that most western europeans are tolerants...I guess Iberia is in western europe.. ;D
So no false data!
The best study is what I can see here...there are so few people with this problems here, that most portuguese think that this problem doesn't exist!
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Post by Crimson Guard on Aug 27, 2004 6:52:54 GMT -5
<<am not protecting anything... We are not NORDIC! PERIOD!>> good for you!
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Post by Vitor on Aug 27, 2004 6:54:42 GMT -5
hehehe altough I believe that the nordic race is an nazi myth! it doesn't exist!
some genes (phenotype) are not enough to promote some people into sub-race status! my oppinion!
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Post by Crimson Guard on Aug 27, 2004 6:59:54 GMT -5
Here I was just searching around on yahoo.com,came across this: www.healthcastle.com/herb_lact.shtmlI just dont want any more confusion,with people thinking I make things up or whatever.But couldnt careless in the end!
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Post by Vitor on Aug 27, 2004 7:04:40 GMT -5
Again no false DATA! please understand the differences between some mediterranean population...
Btw, I do not live in the mediterranean area... there is an ocean in front of me...the ATLANTIC OCEAN!
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Post by Crimson Guard on Aug 27, 2004 7:06:08 GMT -5
<<It's not false data! although they generalised a bit, some mediteraneans (like greeks) are mostly intolerant. (true) They said also that most western europeans are tolerants...I guess Iberia is in western >> Well if you knew and felt that way to begin with then why the quick attack to discredit it and me?? Like I said,"over protective"!
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Post by Vitor on Aug 27, 2004 7:11:27 GMT -5
Alex is portuguese, you were calling him an "lier"... that coupled with that germanic bullshit prompted my reaction! sorry for that!
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