Japanese BOWLEGS and facial morphology

[keles]

Do the Japanese have a different facial morpholoygy (in general) to that of chinese for example?

I can seem to tell whether someone is Japanese or mainland Mongoloid....and NO not just if they have dyed their hair orange and walk strange (OH YEAH - why do most japanese people have BOW LEGS)

So theres two questions for the price of one!

[Graeme]

The shape of the legs are a distinctive characteristic of the Japanese which differs them from Koreans and Chinese. Actually you can tell Chinese, Japanese and Koreans apart. I find it hard to tell Japanese and Koreans apart, but my friends who are "into East Asian" women can, I find the mongolian look ugly, so I have greater difficulty separating the ethnic groups. I once asked a Chinese friend if he could tell a Chinese from a Japanese and he said no, but he added that Japanese women lose their beauty quickly and become very wrinkly. I asked the same question of a Japanese friend about Koreans and Chinese and he said no also, but he came out with the same thing about Korean women, the old wrinkly thing. So if the East Asians have trouble seeing the differences why not me?

[keles]

yeah i see your point - I can tell between chinese, japanese AND korean (koreans tend to have the smallest eyes and longer, thinner noses....this is just how I go by...lol )
ButI also beleive that Japanese peoples faces are different too. Many (not sure if this is due to plastic surgery) have noses of almost 'caucasian' appearance - although the majority do not. Is this due to Ainu genes...lol? Also I have known many Japanese people that have very frizzy hair - I have ye to meet a chinese or korean with hair that has resembled negroid type yet....

So - how come japanese hair can get ''wooly'' and is there a reason for their bowleggedness?

[Graeme]

Frizzy hair and woolly negroid hair are quite different. Frizzy hair is more Pacific, Polynesian. My friend Shiro told me that in Japanese the Pacific, polynesian type comes out every second generation and produces Japanese with frizzy or very wavy hair. The Ainus have very wavy thick hair and they are mainly in Hokkaido. The Japanese Prime Minister has a mop of wavy hair though he has a normal Japanese face.

[JD]

Can you tell which one's Japanese and which one is Chinese?

[Agrippa]

I would say the girl above is Chinese, and the one under her is Japanese. but thats just a wild guess.

Japanese have a special mixture, and many have Ainuid admixture which Chinese have not so much, but on a lower degree as well.

The Japanese type is just a more or less stabilized mixture, Chinese people are more homogenous and mostly Sinid.

[Melnorme]

Agrippa said:

The Japanese type is just a more or less stabilized mixture, Chinese people are more homogenous and mostly Sinid.

It's said that Chinese recognize physical differences between Northern and Southern Chinese, that amount to the same perceived difference a European would notice between a Slav and an Irishman.

[Graeme]

The top girl is Japanese and the bottom one Southern Chinese. I am no expert in picking out these ethnic groups.

Southern Chinese are shorter and darker with less overt mongoloid features on average. The Northerners are quite tall and the features are "flatter". The difference between China and Europe is that the Chinese colonised central and south China and incorporated the local ethnic groups into their clan system and sinicized them in language and culture.

The Japanese do incorporate Ainu and Pacific admixture, but on the whole they are very similar to the Koreans and the Chinese.

[Agrippa]

Melnorme said:

It's said that Chinese recognize physical differences between Northern and Southern Chinese, that amount to the same perceived difference a European would notice between a Slav and an Irishman.

Thats right, because Sinids are divided into Northern-, Middle- and Southern Sinids.
The Southern Sinids are going already in a Palaemongolid direction and the Northern Sinids are more often mixed with Europids and Tungids.

But the differences are still not as big as between Japanese people, not only because they have a stronger Ainuid component, but as like you said, you dont see the Chinese extremes in the same areas as often (Palaemongolid and Northern Sinid) as in Japan, where in the same regions the differences are much bigger. (f.e. Ainuid and Tungid)

BTW I think the girl above is Middle Sinid with possible Tungid admixture, so she can be both, Chin or Jap, and same for the girl under her which might be pred. Nordsinid with possible Europoid admixture.
Not that uncommon in Northern China, but more typical for Jap imo.

[keles]

japanese on the whole however i find have quite 'long' noses - unlike the flatter, generic mongoloid variety....also the majority of Japanese are short whereas you can get some really really tall chinese (like that basketball player on the apple mac ad)