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Post by Afro on Apr 28, 2004 17:17:19 GMT -5
Can I get some information on Arabs and there Caucasian origin??? I mean, like when did they split from the Europeans and how exactly are they related??? I'm more into physical Anthropology (This stuff is sorta just an interest of mine but when you go into genes and all that I get lost) so if you don't mind base it more on skulls, teeth, non skull fossils, Migration, etc.
The real reason I'm delving deeper into it at the moment is because some Arab on another board is trying his hardest to disassociate Arabs Caucasians from European Caucasians. Trying to say that black African Negroids are closer to Europeans then Arabs are. I told him to stop by here and educate himself but he just won't let it go!
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Post by Afro on Apr 28, 2004 17:30:01 GMT -5
By "Arabs" I mean Bedouins or even Berbers.
I'm not talking about the cultural use of the term.
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Post by Melnorme on Apr 28, 2004 18:06:47 GMT -5
The real reason I'm delving deeper into it at the moment is because some Arab on another board is trying his hardest to disassociate Arabs Caucasians from European Caucasians. Trying to say that black African Negroids are closer to Europeans then Arabs are. I told him to stop by here and educate himself but he just won't let it go! Um...could you give a link to this, please? I'm afraid I might know who this 'Arab' is.
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Post by Melnorme on Apr 28, 2004 18:12:39 GMT -5
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Post by Afro on Apr 28, 2004 18:17:15 GMT -5
Um...could you give a link to this, please? I'm afraid I might know who this 'Arab' is. Sure, it spans across like four topics (I am relentless, he is relentless). All started out here --- www.brazzil.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7639 (This topic is down but when it comes back up you can read it) Then it delved off onto this one --- www.brazzil.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7740 (This one is down as well, all the topics with polls are messing up today, it will be back though) Then he made this topic when the second one f*cked up --- www.brazzil.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7674And finally he made this one ---- www.brazzil.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7788Okay, now I don't claim to be an expert on stuff, I probably made many mistakes in my arguement, but this man is a f*cking nimwit. I noticed you emphasized "Arab", thats odd because there was also people on that board questioning if he was really Arab at all, they said he's Italian or something.
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Post by Melnorme on Apr 28, 2004 18:21:39 GMT -5
I noticed you emphasized "Arab", thats odd because there was also people on that board questioning if he was really Arab at all, they said he's Italian or something. Yes, he is Antonio Quartararo, a dark Italian ( quite possibly with Puerto Rican ancestry ) from New York. He's quite mad, it'd be best to ignore him. He's tried to invade this board occasionally, as 'nimr', 'mokha', etc.
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Post by Afro on Apr 28, 2004 18:24:39 GMT -5
Yes, he is Antonio Quartararo, a dark Italian ( quite possibly with Puerto Rican ancestry ) from New York. He's quite mad, it'd be best to ignore him. He's tried to invade this board occasionally, as 'nimr', 'mokha', etc. Well how well do you think my arguement holds up against his??? I mean I AM correct when I say that all that shit about Noses and such has nothing to do with race and more to do with coicedence correct??? Is he the one posting those "Arabs are Negroids" topics? Once the other topics come back up, read those, he't talking about whites and blacks being the same because we are "flat faced" and "Arab faces have dimension". Oh and I would still like to read up a little more on this Arab/Caucasian connection if you don't mind, so if anyone has any info feel free to post it.
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Post by Afro on Apr 28, 2004 18:25:25 GMT -5
And why is he posing as an Arab???
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Post by Melnorme on Apr 28, 2004 18:30:32 GMT -5
And why is he posing as an Arab??? He blames his dark looks on the medieval Saracen occupation of Sicily. Even if he's right about that, it still doesn't make him an Arab ( which is what he believes ). No, that's a different troll. ( the same guy who claims to be a Lebanese and more recently, an Indian )
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Post by Melnorme on Apr 28, 2004 18:37:25 GMT -5
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Post by Agrippa on Apr 28, 2004 19:21:30 GMT -5
Arabs, at least the purer Semit Arabs are fully Europid/Caucasoid, mainly of the Orientalid subrace which can be splitted further into Iranid and Arabid.
The Orientalid type is closely related to other Europid/Caucasoid races in Europe, North Africa and India f.e.
Therefore it is correct to say the are Caucasoid and are both, coming from the same stock and develop similar features.
Arabs are not descendents from Europeans and it is wrong the other way around too. They had just the same base an splitted over time.
But this time is much shorter than compared to f.e. Negrid types.
They are no Europeans, but they are Europids and this distinction and classification makes sence because it categorizes the main biological differences and populations of mankind, at least if its about phenotype/morphological features which is/are genetically determined.
Any other discussion about genetic relations would go to far.
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Post by Afro on Apr 28, 2004 19:46:20 GMT -5
Thats what I was trying to say. I never meant to make it sound like one came from the other.
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