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Post by eufrenio on Apr 22, 2004 14:50:37 GMT -5
I just read this piece and I found it interesting: www.local10.com/news/3030870/detail.html"The North Miami police department dropped a swimming requirement for applicants, saying they need new officers and want to encourage blacks to sign up. North Miami police say they are dropping the requirement for a year. They say few departments require swimming and their officers rarely save people in water. Officials also believe the requirement discourages African-Americans and Haitian Americans from applying. The issue surfaced a year ago when a Haitian-American city councilman asked police to drop the requirement because he said blacks historically can't swim. The request fizzled at the time. Critics say race and ethnicity are not factors when it comes to swimming." I do believe that Blacks are poorly equipped for swimming, due to their high density build. |
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Post by sublime on Apr 22, 2004 19:04:28 GMT -5
Eufrenio, just out of curiosity, are you full-blooded black?
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Post by eufrenio on Apr 23, 2004 6:59:50 GMT -5
Eufrenio, just out of curiosity, are you full-blooded black? I am a full-blooded European (Spain).  |
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Post by Graeme on Apr 23, 2004 8:05:19 GMT -5
I am not black, but have a dense build. I swim like a fish. It must be some other reason.
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Post by Dienekes on Apr 25, 2004 0:01:38 GMT -5
Blacks are indeed poor swimmers, and this has to do with the very narrow and long-limbed build of the Negroid race which makes it more difficult for them to float than other races. Practically, this means that blacks spend more effort trying to stay afloat and less energy for forward movement.
Mongoloids are also poor swimmers, but here the reason is the short limbs of the Mongoloid race which makes it difficult for them to propel themselves efficiently in water. As anyone with swimming experience can attest to, efficient propulsion is achieved by stretching one's hands far ahead of the body which causes water flow to bypass the body, reducing drag -- which is also why narrow ships are fast.
In other words, Negroids don't have enough buyoncy and tend to sink, while Mongoloids don't have enough linearity and can't slide easily in water. Caucasoids represent an intermediate body architecture which allows them to excel in swimming -- as most swimming competition results will indicate.
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Post by eufrenio on Apr 25, 2004 5:52:09 GMT -5
I knew there was a physiological explanation! Here´s Steve Sailer´s view: "The most likely explanation is that black youths in good condition tend to sink rather than float, due to lower average body fat percentage and denser bones (that's why blacks suffer less from osteoporosis). You can swim fine even if you can't float, but learning to swim is much scarier, so a lot of blacks don't ever learn." www.isteve.com/index.htm |
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Post by berschneider on Apr 25, 2004 6:19:42 GMT -5
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Post by eufrenio on Apr 25, 2004 7:06:18 GMT -5
Saying most blacks can´t swim is an empirical fact. Take 10 random Leucoderms and 10 random Negrids to the pool and see how they perform. Or do you buy the racist joke that Blacks do not compete in the Olympics because they are not allowed in pools? ;D Of course, some Blacks can swim when propely taught, and an even smaller proportion can win Gold Medals. The ones you linked to were mixed-race, by the way. |
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Post by geirr on Apr 25, 2004 7:28:39 GMT -5
Anthony Nesty of Suriname was unbeaten for three years in the 100 mt Butterfly earning an Olympic Gold in Seoul, World Championship in 91 and a Bronze in the Barcelona Olympics.
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Post by eufrenio on Apr 25, 2004 7:34:17 GMT -5
Anthony Nesty of Suriname was unbeaten for three years in the 100 mt Butterfly earning an Olympic Gold in Seoul, World Championship in 91 and a Bronze in the Barcelona Olympics. He doesn´t look fully Negrid to me! |
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Post by geirr on Apr 25, 2004 7:55:02 GMT -5
He doesn´t look fully Negrid to me! Neither are the blacks in Miami. |
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Post by eufrenio on Apr 25, 2004 8:03:45 GMT -5
Neither are the blacks in Miami. You have a point there! Although I was in Miami and let me tell you Blacks (African-Americans) there looked nearly unmixed. Haitians are almost full-blooded Negrids as well, at least the ones who end up in Florida. |
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Post by berschneider on Apr 25, 2004 8:03:48 GMT -5
Saying most blacks can´t swim is an empirical fact. Take 10 random Leucoderms and 10 random Negrids to the pool and see how they perform. OK, take 10 youngesters from Congo and 10 people from Iceland and teach them to swim under equal conditions for say 10 years and then compare results. Since no one has done that, this talk is meaningless wastage of time; at best it is something like Nordicyouth's blondishness test. Or do you buy the racist joke that Blacks do not compete in the Olympics because they are not allowed in pools? ; Well, swimming is a cultural thing and in countries with large black population - such as United States - it is a hobby that involves some expense and has until recently been off limits to the black people for precisely the reason you mentioned. How many ice fishing champions from Spain can you name, eh? Spanish can't ski, can't play piano and can't fish through ice. What else are the Spanish biologically incapable of doing, Eufrenio? Of course, some Blacks can swim when propely taught, and an even smaller proportion can win Gold Medals. Are you suggesting that the Kingdom of Netherlands deliberately wanted to get a black Olympic winner and world champion instead of Dutch one just to prove to the world that a black swimmer can beat the whites? The ones you linked to were mixed-race, by the way. Are you sure those black people in the US are absolutely 100% African, taken from the darkest regions of Congo, and do not have any admixture? Are you *really* sure about that? Blacks don’t swim much in the US because of their culture (and are not swimming pool fans). If in Spanish speaking South America the establishment loved to swim and competitive swimming was a popular sport, you can’t say same thing about… Syria. Do you know many Syrians who won gold medals for swimming? Do you know many Russian formula 1 drivers? Blacks can't swim or they can't? If they cannot swim, then they cannot swim, it's not that most blacks CAN"T biologically swim but some can and others break records and win medals, because it does not make any sense whatsoever. Either you can or cannot. It's like pregnancy, either you can biologically get pregnant, Eufrenio, or you cannot. It can't be that you CAN get pregnant only after proper ideollogical training. PS: now, tell me Eufrenio, with all great due respect, where, from what shallow grave, do you dig up those American mutants like this Steve Sailer character or the (naturalized American) South African schizophrenic and gun fan you had the last time on the menu? Where do you get those stupid people with ugly websites?  |
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Post by berschneider on Apr 25, 2004 8:09:24 GMT -5
You have a point there! Although I was in Miami and let me tell you Blacks (African-Americans) there looked nearly unmixed. Haitians are almost full-blooded Negrids as well, at least the ones who end up in Florida. Some *real white* people especially in the U.S. of A., would say that the Spanish and the Portuguese are not fully white but are in fact niggers of Europe, because they do look not as white as those people imagine whites should look like. Here we have situation in reverse - some people of African ancestry either do LOOK or do not look sufficiently Negroid to you. The way one "looks like" is not exact science. |
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Post by eufrenio on Apr 25, 2004 8:21:45 GMT -5
Berschneider, the experiment you mention sounds a very good idea to me! I am a scientist at heart! You can learn to swim in a pond or in a river, lacking a swimming poool, like my grand-father did. I do no deny the cultural or sociological factors involved, but you know, you can easily measure corporal density and buoyancy. When people say that Negrids are poor swimmers, it´s an empirical statement, and a population statistic. The fact that some Blacks can swim doesn´t disprove that the majority cannot. Steve Sailer is a serious writer, I see no reason I shouldn´t cite him. Sometimes I get the gut feeling that you do not like Americans at all! Am I wrong? ;D Where are you from, Berschneider, so I can ramble about your countrymen´s shortcomings? You should also check out www.gnxp.com. |
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