borrebies are a sort of alpines?

[executiona9]

I was reading some page on Dienekes site about subtypes :

Type Muscularity Vault Form Angularity Occiput
A Basic White Rugged Linear, Long Strong Prominent
A1 Atlanto-Mediterranean Rugged V. linear V. strong Hausform
A2 Upper Paleolithic V. Rugged V. linear Strong Scaphoid
A3 Basic, cf. Eurafrican Rugged Linear Medium Prominent
A4 Basic, Eastern Rugged Linear, low Strong Prominent
A5 Basic, Royal Average Massive Linear V. strong Angular
B Classic Mediterranean Gracile Linear, small Slight Projecting
B1 Mediterranean Paedomorphic Ovoid, small Slight Projecting
B2 Mediterranean Angular V. paedomorph. Linear, Small V. strong Proj., hayrick
B3 Desert, Classic Paedomorphic V. linear Slight V. prominent
B4 Desert, Eastern Med. paedomorph. Linear, long Medium Prominent
C Alpine Medium Lateral Slight Rounded
C1 European Alpine Medium Round Slight Rounded
C2 Small Alpine Slight Round, small Slight Rounded
C3 Upper Paleolithic Alpine Rugged Wide, large Medium Rounded
C4 Eastern Alpine Medium Sphenoid, high Medium V. deep, flat
C5 Low Eastern Alpine Medium Byrsoid, low Slight Sl. flat
D Nordic-Iranian Rugged Linear, high Slight Deep, rounded
D1 Nordic Rugged Ovoid, low Medium Rounded
D2 Corded Rugged Ellipse, high V. slight Deep, prominent
D3 Iranian-Mediterranean Medium Linear, high Medium Deep, prominent
D4 Iranian Rugged V. Linear, byrsoid Slight V. deep, prom.
D5 Danubian-Hallstatt Rugged Linear, high Slight Upswept, rounded
E Mixed Alpine Medium Intermediate, big Medium Rounded
E1 Mixed Alpine Slight Massive, high Medium Flat lambda
E2 Nordic-Alpine Rugged Large Slight Flat lambda
E3 Mediterranean-Alpine Medium Intermediate Medium Rounded
F Dinaric-Mediterranean Medium Byrsoid, lateral Medium Upswept
F1 Dinaric-Mediterranean Slight Byrsoid, high Strong Hayrick
F2 Dinaroid Rugged Sphenoid, big Medium Sl. flat
F3 East Balkan Dinaroid Medium Byrsoid, low Slight Rounded
F4 Eastern Light Sphenoid, small Medium Sl. flat q

The Alpine type C1 is the typical Central European Alpine form, C2 a smaller trend of this, and C3 is the Upper Paleolithic to Mesolithic form (cf. Borreby).

www.geocities.com/dienekesp/angelstaxonomy.html

According to this classification system Borrebies are considered a subgroup of the Alpine subrace. The normal alpines are c1. The borrebies are c3 in the alpine subrace.

I think this system on Dienekes page is good.

Borrebies were put into the same group as nordics under the unscientific name ``Nordish`` by McCullogh but alpines were not considered nordish. The reality is that borrebies have much more in common with alpines than with nordics.

Any views?

[One Humanity]

Borreby women:
www.barnallergiaret.nu/pressrum/bildbank/img/hogupplost/aaf00061.jpg (Swedish)
www.ystart.net/upload/20040618/1087517423.jpg ("hälsingetyp")
media.de.indymedia.org/images/2002/08/28330.jpg
www.ystart.net/upload/20040515/1084579360.jpg
www.ystart.net/upload/20040515/1084581889.jpg
www.ystart.net/upload/20040515/1084581337.jpg
people.freenet.de/schdiet/propic/kf01.jpg
people.freenet.de/schdiet/propic/kf02.jpg
www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/bilder/day.jpg
www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/bilder/anita.jpg
www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/bilder/monroe.jpg
www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/bilder/bache.jpg
www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/bilder/cecilie.jpg
www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/bilder/elke.jpg

Alpine women:
dodona.proboards24.com/index.cgi?board=physanth&action=display&thread=1087362684


Any conclusions?

[Aria88]

Some of those women, I dare say, are not Borrebies. True Borrebies are, at least to me, very unattractive. There were a few girls who were far too pretty to be Borrebies. They just didn't fit the phenotype. Most did, however.

[One Humanity]

I'd be glad if you give a more precise comment. Who is totally untypical and who of them is a very good choice? Just copy and paste the links.

Yes, Borrebies can show an unappealing appearance.

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[Aria88]

"Cut," "paste" no sabe. Me relatively computer illit. When have'em time, me give specifics.

[Graeme]

It was Coon who bunched the UP types Brunn and Borreby with Nordics. I would guess that is because he assumed from their presence in Scandinavia mixed in with the Nordic type had something to do with that. There are UP types all over Europe and the Mediterranean is not wholly or solely Mediterranean in race. There are UP types there too. The Nordicist belief is that the Brunn and Borreby types were fair in some way, in eye colour and skin colour. That is an assumption based on the fact that Scandinavian UPs are like that, and also that Scandinavians are more robust and taller supposedly than Southern and Central Europeans. Robustness, tall stature, light pigmentation are all considered Nordic by many. I consider Coon right when he said that Nordics were basically partially depigmented Mediterraneans. So UPs are not Nordics or Mediterraneans or Neolithic or Indo-European but arrived in Europe many thousands of years earlier. What their pigmentation was is subject to debate. Alpinids are reduced and paedomorphic UPs and probably derived from Borreby types. In any case the UPs, Brunn, Borreby and Alpine should be kept together, and the Mediterraneans and Nordics kept together but separate from UPs. Coon in his book the "Races of Europe" had a diagram showing the sub racial groups of caucasoids and the contributors to the mixed types such as Dinarics. It is as good as any as an explanation of the racial composition of the caucasoid race given that he did not understand genetics, DNA or the difference between Neanderthals and the UP caucasoids.