mongolid admixture in turks

[trajan]

I would like to know whether someone in the forum knows about the extent of mongolid admixture in Turks (Turks in Turkey).

I've never been in Turkey but the Turks I've seen so far (and there are plenty of them in Germany) seemed to be nearly all regular Europids to me.

[Scoob]

trajan said:

I would like to know whether someone in the forum knows about the extent of mongolid admixture in Turks (Turks in Turkey).

I've never been in Turkey but the Turks I've seen so far (and there are plenty of them in Germany) seemed to be nearly all regular Europids to me.

According to the Human Genome Project, Turks have less than 10% of Asian DNA. Perhaps less than 5%, I'm not sure.

[Artemidoros]

Scoob said:

According to the Human Genome Project, Turks have less than 10% of Asian DNA. Perhaps less than 5%, I'm not sure.

They have less than 10% Central Asian DNA, of which only about 3.5% is "Mongoloid". That is on the paternal side, very likely less on the maternal side. There are big regional variations I believe. There are 6 or 7 Turks working in my local kebab shop and one of them is predominantly Mongoloid. Another two look as if they have a small amount of Mongoloid admixture. Even in areas with little actual Turkish blood there are a few types that show some Mongoloid traits.
Look at these two prominent Turkish Cypriots for example.

[Dean]

According to the Human Genome Project, Turks have less than 10% of Asian DNA. Perhaps less than 5%, I'm not sure.

Y DNA studies seem to corroborate what Cavalli-Sforza et al. published about them, that they have very little Mongoloid DNA. His team stated that it's been difficult finding Mongoloid DNA in Turkey. They stated that Anatolian Turks are genetically close to nearby populations, such as Jordanians, and farther away from central Asian Turkish speakers. To me many Turks look Middle Eastern--dark and hairy, with thick mustaches--the men, that is. I'm having difficulty believing that such people were in Anatolia during the Roman Empire. A Turkish invasion to me seems like an invasion of mixed Moslems who adopted some of the Turkish culture, of whom the partially-Mongoloid central Asians were only a part, seemingly a small part. The Turkish conquest of Anatolia seems to me to be more a conquest of religion and less of race.

It's been said that the Turkish conquerors were so few compared to indigenous Anatolians, and that Anatolians converted to Islam in such a situation. In the Peloponnese I read that there were 50,000 Ottomans/Turks and 400,000 indigenous people, yet the indigenous people did not convert to Islam, even though there may have been proportionately more indigenous people in the Peloponnese. In light of Anatolia, I'm having a little difficulty understanding how this could happen. I don't know whether many Greeks converted to Islam or whether they were crypto-Christians, as I was taught in Greeks school, and then reconverted to Christianity. If there were so proportionately few Moslem Turkish-speaking conquerors in Anatolia, why didn't they revolt, as Balkan populations revolted, and reconvert to whatever religion they practiced?

[trajan]

Thanks for the information

[Praetor]

Canuck said:

I heard that most mongoloid Turks in Turkey live in a region called Konya.

Must be the old Greek Ikonio. There is a football team there called Konyaspor,any pics of native players?

[HiNDI]

Konya is home of alot of Kurds also

[lion]

What about the other people who speak a turkic language like uzbeks, kazaks and turkmens?

[buddyrydell]

central asian turks show a mixture of Caucasoid and Mongoloid traits, but it varies by ethnic group. Kazakhs are predominantly Mongoloid in physical type, Uzbeks are more of a direct mix, while Turkomans are more Caucasoid but sometimes have subtle Mongoloid traits. Turkomans tend to look similar to many Anatolian Turks from the eastern part of Turkey.