Post by sonofzeus on Mar 9, 2004 20:41:22 GMT -5
*THE GREEK VLAHS*
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Greek Vlahs(Romanophones/latin speaking Greeks) are Greeks,we can find them by the antiquity on the Mounts of Pindos.They just went in the Roman Empire where they used as fighters and interpreters and they got Romanized glossologically.Same goes for all other Vlahs of the Balkans,they Romanized glossologically.
Racially Greek Vlahs are Thraco-Macedones,mainly of Thracian origin.
Greek Romanophones(latin speaking people,Vlahs) can be found in Greece by the ancient years.
As for the Romanian Dacians, the Dacian language was a Thracian/Greek language.Thr(D)acian.
Do not connect everything with the Vlah language(=latin language).These people are not Italians.
The Greek Vlahs are Greek people anthropologically,mainly of Thracian origin and different genetically than the Romanian Vlahs,or the Istro-Vlahs.
www.vlahoi.gr/vlahs.asp?RFRM=http://www.vlahoi.gr/history.htm
Vlahs first mentioned in the 7th century AD as pastoral people of north Greece.The Vlah language though is a latin derived laguage.Greeks Vlahs were latinised greeks who were trained by the Romans to act as guards of the roman highways.This was quite common for all roman provinces.The Greeks vlahs always identified themselves as part of the romiosini(hellenism).They were full fledged byzantine citizens.Their national concience was the greek national concience. This was their national identity. They always considered themselves greek.They were orthodox in religion. This was the single greatest criterion in the times of the byzantine empire and also in the times of the ottoman empire. When the time came the Greek Vlahs stood alongside rest of Greeks. There were many Greek Vlah warlords that participated in the insuraction of 1821.
They Greek Vlahs always considered themselves to be Greeks,Romioi.
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The Greek Vlahs anthropologically.
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The Greek Vlahs of the generation of Patsourei.(from the village Grammousta,for example),name their selves as "Moshovlahs" because they consider that they are "purer" compared to the other Vlahs that lives in more southern regions.At the 18th and 19th century in Thessaly migrated and Vlahs from Southerner Albania.Those are named as "Arvanitovlahs" because they speak also the Albanian language.Perhaps the bonds between the Vlahs of Greece and Albania are older.
Among Vlahs prevail endogamic relations.That is to say they prefer weddimg Vlahs.
The Vlahs of Greece are bilinguals.At the same time with "Vlahika",that also have suffered powerful the effect of the Greek language,they speak also Greek.
The Vlahs of Zagoria of Epiros certify that they speak "Koutsovlahika" and no "Romanovlahika".This is the language that all Vlahs of Western Macedonia(Greek) and majority of the Vlahs of Thessaly speak.
In certain bibliography,Diamands,M.,and .Mendosa,1938, for the Greek Vlahs it is reported that their ancestors came from Romania in Greece at the Middle Age.
The material that assembled the Russian anthropologist B.B.Bounak( 1945) by studing the population of Romania,compared with ours it does not allow such conclusion.
The comparison of anthropologic material from two provinces of Romania,of Oltenia(Small Wallachia) and of Mountenia(Great Wallachia) it reveals enough differences.
The Vlahs of Greece are of taller stature and of lighter coloration than the Romanian Vlahs.The Vlahs of Moravia that were studied by Suk and Augusta(1933) present certain varieties of anthropologic types that separated by the types of population that surround them.On the contrary,the Vlahs of Istria(Carleton Coon, 1939),are much more Brachycephalics,of tall stature,of brown coloration and they have classified as Dinaric types.
Conclusions on the origin of the Roman-speaking Vlahs of Greece:
1.The Roman-speaking people of Greece are in their majority the descendants of native population.An effect of "more northern" types in the native population existed from the ancient years.Regarding the Vlahs of Greece,we can't exclude that this effect had Celtic origin,even in the Slav-speaking populations of Balkan.
2.The locomotion of populations at the middle age in south-eastern Europe and the spreading in combination with them,of the neolatin and slavic languages(and of the conquests of Celts in older season,2000bc) did not practise big effect in the morphologic physique of populations of this region.
3.The problem of the origin and the time of arrival of small relatively percentage of representatives of the "blond" type in the populations of South-Eastern Europe remain for the hour an open question.But we can suppose that the origin of this type is owed in locomotion of populations at the ancient years and that that effect was intensified later,at middle age.
4.The Romanophones of the diffent regions of Balkans and of central Europe are enough non-homogeneous anthropologically.However they are nearest to the anthropologic types of populations near in which they live by the antiquity.Therefore,the Romanophones of the northern regions of Greece are related anthropologically with the Greek-speaking population of these regions.
The Vlahs of Greece belong,at majority,in the "Mediterranean Race".
Ares Poulianos.
Anthropological Association of Greece.
www.aee.gr/
www.vlahoi.gr/foto/egenia/pompi01.jpg
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Greek Vlahs(Romanophones/latin speaking Greeks) are Greeks,we can find them by the antiquity on the Mounts of Pindos.They just went in the Roman Empire where they used as fighters and interpreters and they got Romanized glossologically.Same goes for all other Vlahs of the Balkans,they Romanized glossologically.
Racially Greek Vlahs are Thraco-Macedones,mainly of Thracian origin.
Greek Romanophones(latin speaking people,Vlahs) can be found in Greece by the ancient years.
As for the Romanian Dacians, the Dacian language was a Thracian/Greek language.Thr(D)acian.
Do not connect everything with the Vlah language(=latin language).These people are not Italians.
The Greek Vlahs are Greek people anthropologically,mainly of Thracian origin and different genetically than the Romanian Vlahs,or the Istro-Vlahs.
www.vlahoi.gr/vlahs.asp?RFRM=http://www.vlahoi.gr/history.htm
Vlahs first mentioned in the 7th century AD as pastoral people of north Greece.The Vlah language though is a latin derived laguage.Greeks Vlahs were latinised greeks who were trained by the Romans to act as guards of the roman highways.This was quite common for all roman provinces.The Greeks vlahs always identified themselves as part of the romiosini(hellenism).They were full fledged byzantine citizens.Their national concience was the greek national concience. This was their national identity. They always considered themselves greek.They were orthodox in religion. This was the single greatest criterion in the times of the byzantine empire and also in the times of the ottoman empire. When the time came the Greek Vlahs stood alongside rest of Greeks. There were many Greek Vlah warlords that participated in the insuraction of 1821.
They Greek Vlahs always considered themselves to be Greeks,Romioi.
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The Greek Vlahs anthropologically.
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www.vlahoi.gr/ekdiloseis02/antpreveza.jpg
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www.vlahoi.gr/foto/tsigrisma/tsigrisma00.jpg
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www.vlahoi.gr/foto/foto005.jpg
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The Greek Vlahs of the generation of Patsourei.(from the village Grammousta,for example),name their selves as "Moshovlahs" because they consider that they are "purer" compared to the other Vlahs that lives in more southern regions.At the 18th and 19th century in Thessaly migrated and Vlahs from Southerner Albania.Those are named as "Arvanitovlahs" because they speak also the Albanian language.Perhaps the bonds between the Vlahs of Greece and Albania are older.
Among Vlahs prevail endogamic relations.That is to say they prefer weddimg Vlahs.
The Vlahs of Greece are bilinguals.At the same time with "Vlahika",that also have suffered powerful the effect of the Greek language,they speak also Greek.
The Vlahs of Zagoria of Epiros certify that they speak "Koutsovlahika" and no "Romanovlahika".This is the language that all Vlahs of Western Macedonia(Greek) and majority of the Vlahs of Thessaly speak.
In certain bibliography,Diamands,M.,and .Mendosa,1938, for the Greek Vlahs it is reported that their ancestors came from Romania in Greece at the Middle Age.
The material that assembled the Russian anthropologist B.B.Bounak( 1945) by studing the population of Romania,compared with ours it does not allow such conclusion.
The comparison of anthropologic material from two provinces of Romania,of Oltenia(Small Wallachia) and of Mountenia(Great Wallachia) it reveals enough differences.
The Vlahs of Greece are of taller stature and of lighter coloration than the Romanian Vlahs.The Vlahs of Moravia that were studied by Suk and Augusta(1933) present certain varieties of anthropologic types that separated by the types of population that surround them.On the contrary,the Vlahs of Istria(Carleton Coon, 1939),are much more Brachycephalics,of tall stature,of brown coloration and they have classified as Dinaric types.
Conclusions on the origin of the Roman-speaking Vlahs of Greece:
1.The Roman-speaking people of Greece are in their majority the descendants of native population.An effect of "more northern" types in the native population existed from the ancient years.Regarding the Vlahs of Greece,we can't exclude that this effect had Celtic origin,even in the Slav-speaking populations of Balkan.
2.The locomotion of populations at the middle age in south-eastern Europe and the spreading in combination with them,of the neolatin and slavic languages(and of the conquests of Celts in older season,2000bc) did not practise big effect in the morphologic physique of populations of this region.
3.The problem of the origin and the time of arrival of small relatively percentage of representatives of the "blond" type in the populations of South-Eastern Europe remain for the hour an open question.But we can suppose that the origin of this type is owed in locomotion of populations at the ancient years and that that effect was intensified later,at middle age.
4.The Romanophones of the diffent regions of Balkans and of central Europe are enough non-homogeneous anthropologically.However they are nearest to the anthropologic types of populations near in which they live by the antiquity.Therefore,the Romanophones of the northern regions of Greece are related anthropologically with the Greek-speaking population of these regions.
The Vlahs of Greece belong,at majority,in the "Mediterranean Race".
Ares Poulianos.
Anthropological Association of Greece.
www.aee.gr/