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Post by Necronomicom on Mar 5, 2004 1:58:05 GMT -5
All caucasian types, from Nordics to Dravidians, share similar facial lines and a somewhat similar skull shape, but the purest Alpines and UPs look very different from this phenotype.
I have nothing againsts these types and this may sound like a total absurd, but i think that if the presence of UPs and Alpines in Europe wasn't so dense, and if these types were not so mixed with other European types then maybe the Anthropologs would have not included UPs and Alpines withing the caucasoid sub-specie....
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Post by Tbilisi on Mar 5, 2004 2:10:58 GMT -5
Maybe it's true , but what are they exept Caucausian? You cant' really call UPs an Alpinids Mongoloid or Negroid can you?  |
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Post by HINDI on Mar 5, 2004 7:56:52 GMT -5
Why are alpines called alpine when they can be found as far as in India..whats the connection with the Alps?
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Post by Praetor on Mar 5, 2004 12:15:11 GMT -5
And why mediterraneans are called that while they can be found in the UK and Iran?As for alpines,they are called that probably because they predominate in areas around the Alps.Guys,there isn't single european country without important alpinid(partly or fully) population,be it France,Italy,Germany,Albania,Denmark,Serbia,Greece etc,etc.
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Post by Marina on Mar 6, 2004 2:38:25 GMT -5
Why are alpines called alpine when they can be found as far as in India..whats the connection with the Alps? I think you're talking about the Asiatic Alpines, and if I remember correctly they did not evolve from the same group as the European Alpines.  |
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Post by Marina on Mar 6, 2004 2:41:53 GMT -5
All caucasian types, from Nordics to Dravidians, share similar facial lines and a somewhat similar skull shape, but the purest Alpines and UPs look very different from this phenotype. I have nothing againsts these types and this may sound like a total absurd, but i think that if the presence of UPs and Alpines in Europe wasn't so dense, and if these types were not so mixed with other European types then maybe the Anthropologs would have not included UPs and Alpines withing the caucasoid sub-specie.... Yes, genocide is truly the only way to deal with such inferior beings. They are tainting the Caucasian bloodlines and must be driven from Europe by all means possible. ;D Seriously, though, maybe they are a lost, misclassified race of man. |
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Post by Agrippa on Mar 6, 2004 14:21:10 GMT -5
Why are alpines called alpine when they can be found as far as in India..whats the connection with the Alps? Because a) this is a type which is stronger in mountainous regions. Alpine = mountainous too. b) the anthropologists where Europeans and in Europe this type is strong in the Alpine regions. There profile and facial features are more Europid/Caucasoid than anything else. Maybe you could if you are creative create a two parts Europid scheme with Dolichocephalics and Brachycephalics, but how this difference evolved is still unclear and its not always genetic in the sence of common ancestry. Furthermore they are for sure Europids and there is no way to deny that. Although they maybe a little bit nearer to Mongolids than the dolichocephalic types. But do not forget, there are even medocephalic Mongolids too (Nordsinid). |
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Post by Dienekes on Mar 6, 2004 19:08:56 GMT -5
Alpines are Caucasoid and are unrelated to any other race. They possess all the primary characters of the Caucasoid race.
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Post by labi on Mar 9, 2004 20:43:06 GMT -5
i too find the UP people alien looking.
did the UP people went a similar mutation like the meds who got depigmented and turned into nords? if not i would say they are different people. theyve been in europe much longer and have evolved differently. alpines remind me of neanderthals. short bodies and lots of body fat to stay warm.
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Post by Redwolf on Mar 20, 2004 1:33:57 GMT -5
Genetic evidence shows that both Alpines and UPs are fully European. Question: If they are not European, exactly what are they?
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Post by Graeme on Mar 21, 2004 7:23:34 GMT -5
Wasn't Cro Magnon a UP type? As far as you can tell from their skeletons they were caucasoid though somewhat heavy and rugged. Coon said that Alpinids were reduced and neotonious UP types, the reduction exaggerating the round headedness. Coon also claimed that the UP types were incipiently mongoloid, that is had acquired mongoloid like features due to cold adaptation. Alpinids are not exactly fat just very lateral in build, broad shouldered, waisted and hipped, like rugby players. The UP people were usually tall especially compared with Neanderthals. Alpinids must be a fecund group as they have contributed to most European populations.
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Post by Praetor on Mar 30, 2004 16:17:53 GMT -5
Alpinids...just very lateral in build, broad shouldered, waisted and hipped, like rugby players. . Imagine this guy you've described with dark brown hair and brown eyes,put him into a roughly 6'3'' pack and you get me ;D |
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