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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 18, 2005 5:42:22 GMT -5
"A particular case in question is the origin of haplogroup M1, which is mainly found in Northeast Africa and the Near East (Quintana-Murci et al. 1999). Due to the fact that M1 bears variant nucleotides, for example, at site 16311 in common with haplogroup M4, at 16129 with M5, and at 16249 with haplogroup M34, it has been proposed that M1 might have some affinity with Indian M haplogroups (Roychoudhury et al. 2001). This inference, however, could not receive support from our complete sequencing information. Indeed, the reconstructed ancestral motifs of all Indian M haplogroups turned out to be devoid of those variations that characterized M1, i.e., 6446, 6680, 12403, and 14110 (Maca-Meyer et al. 2001; Herrnstadt et al. 2002). Therefore, those common mutations in the control region rather reflect random parallel mutations. There is no evidence whatsoever that M1 originated in India."
The Dazzling Array of Basal Branches in the mtDNA Macrohaplogroup M from India as Inferred from Complete Genomes
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 18, 2005 14:36:11 GMT -5
rudra? up^^
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 18, 2005 15:10:43 GMT -5
What are the racial implications of this other than the technicality of where it originated?
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 18, 2005 15:25:00 GMT -5
What are the racial implications of this other than the technicality of where it originated? Don't think there's anything racial about M1, at least in my opinion.
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Post by ibra on Dec 18, 2005 15:58:39 GMT -5
-Basically the mutation M1 occurred in East Africa, rather than India. The focus of the study was to classify all the Indian M haplogroups. They were M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M30, M33, M34, M35, M36, M37, M38, M39, M40 and several other M’s. The similarities between some Indian haplogroups and the East African M1 are coincidence; however the study doesn’t pinpoint the origin of M. If one still wants to maintain a Back Migration scenario: -M* returned to Africa thousands of years ago, long before race. -M* expanded into East Africa, becoming M1 Otherwise, -M and other haplogroups originated in East Africa and expanded to India. DE* present in some African groups is consistent with this scenario. BTW, good to see you back Bass.
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 18, 2005 16:00:26 GMT -5
-Basically the mutation M1 occurred in East Africa, rather than India. The focus of the study was to classify all the Indian M haplogroups. They were M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M30, M33, M34, M35, M36, M37, M38, M39, M40 and several other M’s. The similarities between some Indian haplogroups and the East African M1 are coincidence; however the study doesn’t pinpoint the origin of M. If one still wants to maintain a Back Migration scenario: -M* returned to Africa thousands of years ago, long before race. -M* expanded into East Africa, becoming M1 Otherwise, -M and other haplogroups originated in East Africa and expanded to India. DE* present in some African groups is consistent with this scenario. BTW, good to see you back Bass. Thanks man, if you would like it, I have the full text to that study.
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Post by ibra on Dec 18, 2005 16:02:35 GMT -5
Yes that would be awesome, thanks!
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 18, 2005 16:05:17 GMT -5
Yes that would be awesome, thanks! My email is cr_rigaud@yahoo.com, just shoot me an email and I'll send it to you.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 18, 2005 16:08:33 GMT -5
You should probably PM people your e-mail instead of outright posting it. You never know, some of the jokers here might subscribe you to gay porn.
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Post by ibra on Dec 18, 2005 16:16:13 GMT -5
Yes that would be awesome, thanks! My email is cr_rigaud@yahoo.com, just shoot me an email and I'll send it to you. Bass, check pm.
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