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Post by Jack Reed on Dec 15, 2005 20:35:42 GMT -5
Stella's thread inspired this post. Phyllis Jackson, a British archaeologist and podiatrist, claims that there is a difference between the two groups' paws. Celtic feet tend to be narrow with level toes while Saxon feet tend to be wide with angled toes. I think that it might be bogus, but here's the link to the article. www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1511/is_n6_v17/ai_18289437
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Post by wendland on Dec 15, 2005 22:38:20 GMT -5
How do these types of feet compare to continental European feet? Or the rest of the word... Are there differences in hands too? Usually people talk about faces, noses, heads, color... So, why shouldn't there be differences in feet, or fingernails, butts, lower backs, etc...
PS I had heard something similar once about Scottish soldiers (or was it consumers?) complaining about shoes not fitting them, something about their "celtic" feet being narrower.
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Post by stella22 on Dec 15, 2005 22:56:09 GMT -5
Jack Reed, maybe there is a pattern with feet, but there are probably way too many exceptions. I've noticed that African descended people have long-narrow fingernail beds, while More european types have the wide-short style nail beds. And oddly, finger nailbeds seem to match the toe nailbeds in shape.
Wendland, I was just thinking about this. It seems like faces vary so much even within one small town that they don't tell you that much about ones origins. You could probably find a Spaniard that looks like some Russian guy who looks kinda like some Turk. But bodies seem to vary less and so they indicate more. Today, I saw a Spanish lady who had almost the exact same body proportions (and hair texture) as myself (I'm a med blend). But when she turned around her face was totally different. The body shapes pointed to the fact that we share a Mediterranean heritage. But by facial features, you wouldn't be able to detect that our ancestors came from the same general region.
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Post by Jack Reed on Dec 16, 2005 0:02:54 GMT -5
How do these types of feet compare to continental European feet? Or the rest of the word... Are there differences in hands too? Usually people talk about faces, noses, heads, color... So, why shouldn't there be differences in feet, or fingernails, butts, lower backs, etc... PS I had heard something similar once about Scottish soldiers (or was it consumers?) complaining about shoes not fitting them, something about their "celtic" feet being narrower. I don't know, but that's a good question. My guess is that Asians have smaller feet and smaller hands. They tend to have smaller bones. I don't know if Jackson's theory is definitive. You probably can find Chinese people with Celtic feet and Japanese people with Saxon feet. I remember a similar study to the story that you mentioned. A British doctor noticed differences in British soldiers during a war.
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Post by Jack Reed on Dec 16, 2005 0:10:47 GMT -5
Jack Reed, maybe there is a pattern with feet, but there are probably way too many exceptions. I've noticed that African descended people have long-narrow fingernail beds, while More european types have the wide-short style nail beds. And oddly, finger nailbeds seem to match the toe nailbeds in shape. Wendland, I was just thinking about this. It seems like faces vary so much even within one small town that they don't tell you that much about ones origins. You could probably find a Spaniard that looks like some Russian guy who looks kinda like some Turk. But bodies seem to vary less and so they indicate more. Today, I saw a Spanish lady who had almost the exact same body proportions (and hair texture) as myself (I'm a med blend). But when she turned around her face was totally different. The body shapes pointed to the fact that we share a Mediterranean heritage. But by facial features, you wouldn't be able to detect that our ancestors came from the same general region. Call me Jack. ;-) I didn't know that about the fingernails and the toenails. They say that Negroids (I use that word only on Dodona) have smaller ears than Caucasoids. I have small ears, so maybe that explains why some of my ancestors were listed as FPC on the census. <G>
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Post by asdf on Dec 16, 2005 0:19:13 GMT -5
Graeme mentioned American whites have "small lobeless ears" and attributed it to possible Negroid admixture. Not likely at all since the levels are so low, but the observation might have been a correct generalization.
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Post by Faelcind on Dec 16, 2005 0:47:55 GMT -5
I beleive that the foot thing was supposed to be celtic vs continental. I am predominately of british descent from the "celtic" regions of britain, my feet are long and the second toe is longer then the big toe. This is also a stereotype I have seen of native americans, which in my limited observation is true of plains and eastern woodland indians but not of meso americans or pacific coast indians. My observation is that people of african descent genereall have very narrow feet.
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Post by Jack Reed on Dec 16, 2005 8:56:49 GMT -5
Graeme mentioned American whites have "small lobeless ears" and attributed it to possible Negroid admixture. Not likely at all since the levels are so low, but the observation might have been a correct generalization. I have small ears, but they have lobes. I remember when Graeme said that Europeans try to find White Americans' African and Native American features. LOL
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Post by Jack Reed on Dec 16, 2005 8:59:48 GMT -5
I beleive that the foot thing was supposed to be celtic vs continental. I am predominately of british descent from the "celtic" regions of britain, my feet are long and the second toe is longer then the big toe. This is also a stereotype I have seen of native americans, which in my limited observation is true of plains and eastern woodland indians but not of meso americans or pacific coast indians. My observation is that people of african descent genereall have very narrow feet. She divided them into Celtic and Saxon, but Continental makes sense too. I read that Africans tend to have flat feet and that Native Americans tend to have a big space between their first and second toes.
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Post by olympian on Dec 16, 2005 12:22:42 GMT -5
the second toe being longer than the big toe is called greek foot and if they are the same it's called roman foot
neway i dont think anyone can classify subraces according to this
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Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 16, 2005 14:43:15 GMT -5
Master of the Roman toe!
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