Nine Europeans, nine countries

[quarryman]

Norway, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Romania. Sorry for inconsistent size and quality. Mostly fairly typical in my opinion, but for larger countries there can be regional sub-types.

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[eastanglian]

I always find it easier to guess groups of people rather than individuals, often individuals could fit into many countries. Anyway I'll have a go.

1)Estonia 2)Romania 3)Hungary 4)Denmark 5)Germany 6)Croatia 7)France 8)Norway 9)Austria

Quite hard because i've only been to one of those countries.

[oubit]

1) Estonia
2) France
3) Romania
4) Germany
5) Norway
6) Croatia
7) Austria
8) Denmark
9) Hungary

[quarryman]

eastanglian: sorry.
oubit: France (2) is right.

Some guesses are in the neighbourhood...

[oubit]

1) Norway
2) France
3) Croatia
4) Hungary
5) Denmark
6) Austria
7) Germany
8) Estonia
9) Romania

[vingul]

1) Denmark
2) (France)
3) Hungary
4) Austria
5) German
6) Croatia
7) Romania
8) Norway
9) Estonia

[Platypus]

1) Norway.. (Pred. Brunn)
2) --France-- (seems Alpino-Med)
3) Croat (could be Neo Danubian(Coon)
4) German (Nordid)
5) Estonia (Nordid-Baltid(west))
6) Romania (maybe slight Turanid -Dinaro Med))
7) Hungary ( maybe Pontic-Alpinoid)
8) Austria (pred. Cro magnid, southy Borreby etc)
9) Denmark (Borreby)

[vingul]

platypus said:

1) Norway.. (Pred. Brunn)

Really? I would say he's predominantly Borreby, with Brünn tendencies. Brünn individuals in Norway are seldom this euryprosopic.

[Platypus]

well its hard to tell from a metrical standpoint but the man #1 (which I think as Norwegian or Estonian) morphologically appears to carry elements wich i would associate with the Brunneoid-Troender spectrum and other Baltid and Ladogan related types (Coon found Troender like types in Ireland, Norway and Finland)

some features could be the Large teeth, the carachteristic morphology of lips and and the 'soft' plump nose. with a diffeent hairstyle the man would fit well in the British isles.

Borrebys in my view are more diversified usually higher headed with wide foreheads, and a globular head shape. the face is overall more square (or round) faced. usually with Alpinoid, Baltid and other tendencies.

[quarryman]

oubit: Croatia (3) and Germany (7) is right (the german is from the sw province of Baden).

vingul: Denmark (1) and Austria (4) is right.

Platypus: Croatia (3), Estonia (5) and Romania (6) is right.

Then it means No 8 is Hungarian and No 9 Norwegian.

The right line:
1) Denmark
2) France
3) Croatia
4) Austria
5) Estonia
6) Romania

Good reflections on the features, Platypus and vingul. Originally, I intended to pick the most Borrebyid Dane I could find. But I agree that the No 1) man is as Brünnid as Borrebyid - a schoolbook Borrebyid would have features more in the Baltid direction (higher head etc).
7) Germany
8) Hungary
9) Norway

[vingul]

platypus said:

well its hard to tell from a metrical standpoint but the man #1 (which I think as Norwegian or Estonian) morphologically appears to carry elements wich i would associate with the Brunneoid-Troender spectrum and other Baltid and Ladogan related types (Coon found Troender like types in Ireland, Norway and Finland)

Btw:

The widespread use of the term Trønder to denote non-Norwegian instances of Nordid/Brünn mixture relies on a misconception. The term, as coined by C. F. Larsen ("Trønderkranier og Trøndertyper", 1903), actually refers to a gradient of typological features in the Norwegian population, involving several elements, ranging from the northern-central provinces of Trøndelag to the southwestern-central inland valleys of the Agder and Telemark provinces. The northern extreme is a tall, mesocephalic, predominantly Corded variety, with some Brünn admixture, whereas the southern extreme is as nearly perfect a Brünn as one may find, albeit with some Corded admixture. The intermediate population represents a gradient between these two principal types, everywhere showing influence from both Hallstatt and Borreby strains, and it is only this generalized and somewhat stabilized intermediate type - which is probably the most common Norwegian type - which may rightfully be termed "Trønder".

The general Trønder appearance is not so much a Brünn-Nordic combination as a craggier, taller, more powerful and more rufous or golden-haired (as opposed to ash-blond) Nordid variety.

[Platypus]

@ Vingul

Yes, the real Troender type is as you wrote, reflecting a special Scandinavian if not strictly Norwegian sub-type.

also as it is based on a toponim definition, the Troender is not the best one to use for types originating outside that area.

But in some regions were Nordic and where large, heavy Cro Magnid types are present: Ireland, Britain, Scandinavia, The Baltic states etc, roughly similar individuals with no genetic link or common ancestry might appear.
'Troender' is often used to describe this Tall, high headed, robust, leptosome but often coarse featured and often rufous type.
Is probably more correct to say just Nordid+Brunn.

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platypus said:

@ Vingul

Yes, the real Troender type is as you wrote, reflecting a special Scandinavian if not strictly Norwegian sub-type.

also as it is based on a toponim definition, the Troender is not the best one to use for types originating outside that area.

But in some regions were Nordic and where large, heavy Cro Magnid types are present: Ireland, Britain, Scandinavia, The Baltic states etc, roughly similar individuals with no genetic link or common ancestry might appear.
'Troender' is often used to describe this Tall, high headed, robust, leptosome but often coarse featured and often rufous type.
Is probably more correct to say just Nordid+Brunn.

That's contradictory though. "Brünn" too should be nothing but a local type (Scandinavian - I keep saying Irish, sorry).

The only reason we use either so commonly is Coon in his work focused on the racially simpler Ireland and Norway.

[vingul]

platypus said:

'Troender' is often used to describe this Tall, high headed, robust, leptosome but often coarse featured and often rufous type.
Is probably more correct to say just Nordid+Brunn.

I agree with your final comment. I personally do not acknowledge the need to establish type names for recurring instances of a particular combination, when said combination does not exemplify a stabilized blend of the types in question. That is not really a "type", anyway. Do you not agree?

[vingul]

seizure said:

That's contradictory though. "Brünn" too should be nothing but a local type - in this case, Irish instead of Norwegian.

Admitting, of course, that the term itself is a Czech toponym, referring to cranial finds at Brno/Brünn, and therefore even more misleading when so frequently applied to descriptions of the racial continuity between Ireland and Norway.

The only reason we use either so commonly is Coon in his work focused on the racially simpler Ireland and Norway.

Yes, grand old Coon. One thing that I find somewhat frustrating, is the rather divergent and subsequently often misconstrued use of racial/sub-racial/typological terminologies on Dodona and elsewhere. This warrants action.