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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 8:54:31 GMT -5
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Post by IfTheLightTakesUs on Feb 25, 2005 10:42:48 GMT -5
This thread is awesome. Very interesting looking people.
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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 14:08:26 GMT -5
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Post by mike2 on Feb 25, 2005 15:45:14 GMT -5
So, would anyone here like to comment on the racial makeup of the various groups? I'm waiting to hear from you, MikeTH, since it's your fault this thread exists . Heh heh. I'm here. Great pics all around, too. My original question remains... what subrace do the Mongols belong to? Are they Classic Mongoloid/Northeast Asian, Arctic Mongoloid/Tungid, or are they their own subrace? I lean towards Classic myself though I recognize the possibility of Arctic/Siberian elements. My other question involves the Turanids. Is the Caucasoid factor caused by mainly Irano-Afghan mixture? This seems to be the most likely conclusion, though I know there were other Caucasian peoples like the Tokharians who had a hand in altering the racial character of some tribes, notably the Uighurs. But is the the Caucasoid element mainly Irano-Afghan? I would like to think it is just for the sake of simplicity.
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Ardashir
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Post by Ardashir on Apr 6, 2005 2:41:38 GMT -5
They are not Turanids. They belong to Iranian group. they are considered Caucasians. I think that Tajiks are as Caucasoid as Russians.
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Post by Tautamo on Apr 6, 2005 8:02:36 GMT -5
nice thread we need more asian peeps in here
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Post by blueskygod on Jan 2, 2006 0:56:41 GMT -5
turanids rule
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Post by attis on Jan 2, 2006 23:21:20 GMT -5
I saw a video about modern day Mongolians. Although the vast majority in the video were totally Asian looking, I did see one Mongol man with light eyes and caucasian features. I guess any number of caucasian ethnic groups may have been what gave him his features...
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Post by psychosemitic on Jan 3, 2006 16:08:47 GMT -5
u forgot to add this Turanian Kaghan Ogruzgun
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Post by blueskygod on Jan 3, 2006 16:18:34 GMT -5
the current mongols are khalka, which are a tungusid group that isn't a real turko-mongol tribe since it was never around during the genghizid empire's time, and the Khalkas migrated to the Mongolian plains later in the last 200 years. That is why most of the inhabitants of mongolia aren't real turanids. They are a disgrace to the historical image of Genghis Khan's bortejins which kept the world at its mercy. The modern image of a Mongol is a chinese man with a beard. Most people in the Mongol armies were actually assimilated Eurasian looking turks( kiphcaks etc). The silly Khalkas think they're the descendants of Genghis Khan. NO freaking way! It is the Kazaks . We can prove it. The Argin Clan, my Grandad's clan who is related to a bey who was shot by the NKVD has ancestry from Ogeday Khan. At least I think its Ogeday altho it might be anotehr of his sons. and that portait of Genghis Khan thats widely available on the internet was actually painted 150-200 years after his death, by a chinese painter who used genghis's descendants who had mixed heavily with the han chinese by then. Genghis Khan looked more like blueskygod according to descriptions instead of a fat chinese man. Genghis even had grey eyes! nuff said!
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Post by blueskygod on Jan 3, 2006 16:24:41 GMT -5
here's a true descendant of genghis khan.
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Post by gelaye on Jan 3, 2006 16:35:28 GMT -5
i don't know why, but mongoloians and some central asians remind me of the japanese - any link? im not being stupid lol - mean as apposed to looking more chinese (sinid) they look Japanese - something about their facial structure and hair or something....
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Post by beheritan on Jan 4, 2006 3:08:08 GMT -5
Yeah, believe it or not I once read an interview with Japanese nationalists that said they were Turanid! Is there any validity to this at all?
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Post by Josh on Jan 4, 2006 3:16:32 GMT -5
Does anyone know anything about the origins of the image of Genghis Khan below? Also, how would you classify it? It looks pretty Caucasoid to me, more or less like a modern day Turk.
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Post by psychosemitic on Jan 4, 2006 3:33:27 GMT -5
Does anyone know anything about the origins of the image of Genghis Khan below? Also, how would you classify it? It looks pretty Caucasoid to me, more or less like a modern day Turk. like my grandfather used to say "Ki chemlotlochib shpanyolo qoxlitlhle xristofal qolong wahxash italyeno xierplothlec anglesheh qoxlitlhle Rey riqardo wahaxash frankoh nah qoxlithle banghltlec hmon kara Exipto qoxlithlong hmon barqa,garanhlac hleptlec hmon kara barwe qoxlitlhle Xengish qan" like the wiry spaniards claim columbus who was italian the bold english claim king richard a frenchman the white man claims egypt who are black, one day the white man will even claim chengiz khan
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