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Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2005 5:34:07 GMT -5
Among Mongolians you posted few non ethnical Mongolians (I recognized them by clothes they wear). It could explain Caucasian touch. I remember that almost half a million Kazakhs used to live in Mongolia. Now they are returning to their historical Motherland, ther is alia going on. Kazakhs escaped from Revolution to Mongolia, China and Iran. Definetely non Mongolian: girl in a green dress with high hat, man with a beard-Uzbek or Kazak muslim hat, when Mongolians are budists. I'm having difficulty finding some of the pics you mentioned. If you post those pics, I will delete them from my post, or at least detail that they aren't Mongolian. If you can tell what ethnic groups they do belong to, I'd encourage you to put them in your Turanid posts. EDIT: Are these the ones you mentioned?
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Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2005 5:37:33 GMT -5
Sorry, I hadn't seen it earlier. Nice photo.
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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 5:42:44 GMT -5
Those are right pictures except the last man in yeallow/orange robe.
There is also picture similar to old man with beard, another old man with beard in European white hat. He is Turanid.
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Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2005 5:49:43 GMT -5
Those are right pictures except the last man in yeallow/orange robe. There is also picture similar to old man with beard, another old man with beard in European white hat. He is Turanid. I got it. As for the woman, I find it very strange that the caption from the page said, "Mongolian Musician." It appears to be from some evangelist website (http://www.worshipinstitute.com/Russia/pages/Mongolian%20Musician%202_JPG.htm), so perhaps they are ignorant, and they think that it only matters that they are non-Christians from Central Asia who need to be converted. However, I'll take your word for it and take them out of the initial post. My first post on this page will be where I put the outtakes. That way, I don't misrepresent them as Mongolians, but I maintain the access to these nonetheless interesting photos. Edit: Done. They've been taken out.
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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 5:57:20 GMT -5
thanks for trusting me. I'm pretty sure in these three because of national clothes, instruments and some other habits no mongolian would follow (it is like calling Palsetinian in national costume a Jewish only because he lives in Israel). I can only speculate about younger man with grey eyes. Mongolians do not have greay eyes. I NEVER encountered Mongolian with grey eyes, when plenty of Kazakhs have green/grey eyes, including both of my grandparents.
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Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2005 6:05:34 GMT -5
thanks for trusting me. I'm pretty sure in these three because of national clothes, instruments and some other habits no mongolian would follow (it is like calling Palsetinian in national costume a Jewish only because he lives in Israel). I can only speculate about younger man with grey eyes. Mongolians do not have greay eyes. I NEVER encountered Mongolian with grey eyes, when plenty of Kazakhs have green/grey eyes, including both of my grandparents. For the grey eyed guy, I'll put the caption, possible non-Mongolian, above his photo. However, his pic was found on a comprehensive site about Mongolia that was probably made by Mongolians, and he is wearing the same hat as another guy towards the bottom of the post.
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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 6:05:45 GMT -5
It is not about spotting Mongols, it is about sub groups of the Mongoloid race.
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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 6:06:49 GMT -5
Josh: Yep, the right guy. I'm just not sure 100% who he is. I cannot speculate.
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Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2005 6:14:20 GMT -5
So, would anyone here like to comment on the racial makeup of the various groups? I'm waiting to hear from you, MikeTH, since it's your fault this thread exists .
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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 7:02:01 GMT -5
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Post by joeb1 on Feb 25, 2005 8:27:53 GMT -5
how about posting some pictures of some tajiks? From what i understand they are the least mongoloid/turkish group in central asia and more related to ethnic persians
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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 8:30:39 GMT -5
They are not Turanids. They belong to Iranian group. they are considered Caucasians.
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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 8:37:43 GMT -5
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Post by Melnorme on Feb 25, 2005 8:41:04 GMT -5
Tajiks are Indo-European speakers, but are certainly not 'pure Caucasians'.
For an ethnic group that lives so close to China, though, they are surprisingly Caucasoid-looking. And that's just the Tajiks in Tajikistan, ignoring the ones in Afghanistan.
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Post by Kazakhgirl on Feb 25, 2005 8:46:08 GMT -5
China forcefully assimilates Uighurs with Chinese. They do rebell.
Tajiks for sure have some mixes with other Central Asians, especially Uzbeks, but not to the extent to not consider them non Caucasians.
They do keep in touch with Afghanis and people from Iran after USSR fell apart. I do not know if they mix, because educational/cultural gap between Afghanis and post soviet Tajics are huge now.
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