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Post by AWAR on Jun 17, 2004 15:16:42 GMT -5
I am a newer member who peers in now and then...very interesting topics as I studied anthro as a minor at university. Still anxiously awaiting a calculator for females! I'm sure that people will be more than happy to classify you by your photographs in the mean time
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Post by jdster on Sept 28, 2004 1:55:12 GMT -5
I am a new member. This is really fascinating. My dimensions were: head length: 180 head breadth: 150 head height: 147 min. front. : 125 bizygomatic: 140 bigonial: 123 total f.h. :190 upper f.h. : 79 nasal h : 51 nasal breadth: 30 I tried to submit the results, but the page would not load.
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Post by Vitor on Sept 29, 2004 6:46:04 GMT -5
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Holger
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Even my typing is considerably richer than yao!
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Post by Holger on Jan 6, 2005 4:59:45 GMT -5
Your cephalic index is: 66.7 (hyperdolichocephalic) Your height/length index is: 61.9 (orthocephalic) Your height/breadth index is: 92.9 (acrocephalic) Your facial index is: 103.8 (hyperleptoprosopic) Your upper facial index is: 65.4 (leptene) Your nasal index is: 54.5 (hyperleptorrhine) Your estimated endocranial volume is: 1435 cc (euencephalic) Your estimated brain weight is: 1333 gr
Euclidean Distance Mahalanobis Distance Cosine Similarity Proto-Europoid: 47 86 -0.12 Mediterranoid: 37 49 0.05 Alpinoid: 44 60 -0.57 Irano-Nordoid: 24 21 0.63 Dinaroid: 35 40 0.02
Your classification is Irano-Nordoid (using Euclidean distance), Irano-Nordoid (using Mahalanobis distance), and Irano-Nordoid (using Cosine similarity).
According to Euclidean Distance: You are metrically closest to Plate 16, Figure 3 (distance = 18) You are metrically furthest from Plate 5, Figure 1 (distance = 81)
According to Mahalanobis Distance: You are metrically closest to Plate 30, Figure 4 (distance = 12) You are metrically furthest from Plate 5, Figure 1 (distance = 189)
According to Cosine Similarity: You are metrically closest to Plate 16, Figure 3 (similarity = 0.82) You are metrically furthest from Plate 34, Figure 2 (similarity = -0.803)
What are these plates btw?
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Post by Svarog on Jan 8, 2005 15:11:19 GMT -5
Your cephalic index is: 71.6 (dolichocephalic) Your height/length index is: 59.8 (orthocephalic) Your height/breadth index is: 83.6 (metriocephalic) Your facial index is: 92.4 (leptoprosopic) Your upper facial index is: 55.2 (mesene) Your nasal index is: 59.3 (leptorrhine) Your estimated endocranial volume is: 1381 cc (euencephalic) Your estimated brain weight is: 1276 gr
Euclidean Distance Mahalanobis Distance Cosine Similarity Proto-Europoid: 16 30 0.16 Mediterranoid: 20 37 -0.24 Alpinoid: 15 18 -0.33 Irano-Nordoid: 8 8 0.47 Dinaroid: 13 10 -0
Your classification is Irano-Nordoid (using Euclidean distance), Irano-Nordoid (using Mahalanobis distance), and Irano-Nordoid (using Cosine similarity).
According to Euclidean Distance:
You are metrically closest to Plate 16, Figure 3 (distance = 5) You are metrically furthest from Plate 5, Figure 1 (distance = 51)
According to Mahalanobis Distance: You are metrically closest to Plate 24, Figure 4 (distance = 3) You are metrically furthest from Plate 10, Figure 5 (distance = 115)
According to Cosine Similarity: You are metrically closest to Plate 16, Figure 3 (similarity = 0.7) You are metrically furthest from Plate 43, Figure 4 (similarity = -0.754)
Great job Dienekes. Although I must say that I think I got something wrong with these measurments, 'cause I'm not sure if I believe these results.
Is there any more precise way to measure yourself? Somebody said something about aluminum folly.
P.S. I know how ignorant this may sound, but what is Irano-Nordid ;D. Sure, I know of Nordid's but I haven't heard of Irano-Nordid.
P.P.S. The reason I doubt my results is because the Nordids, as I know it are supposed to be blonde, and I'm not blond in any way.
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Post by hansel on Jan 8, 2005 18:59:04 GMT -5
can these plates and figures be found anywhere;;
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Post by AWAR on Jan 8, 2005 21:12:07 GMT -5
Your cephalic index is: 71.6 (dolichocephalic) Your height/length index is: 59.8 (orthocephalic) Your height/breadth index is: 83.6 (metriocephalic) Your facial index is: 92.4 (leptoprosopic) Your upper facial index is: 55.2 (mesene) Your nasal index is: 59.3 (leptorrhine) Your estimated endocranial volume is: 1381 cc (euencephalic) Your estimated brain weight is: 1276 gr Euclidean Distance Mahalanobis Distance Cosine Similarity Proto-Europoid: 16 30 0.16 Mediterranoid: 20 37 -0.24 Alpinoid: 15 18 -0.33 Irano-Nordoid: 8 8 0.47 Dinaroid: 13 10 -0 Your classification is Irano-Nordoid (using Euclidean distance), Irano-Nordoid (using Mahalanobis distance), and Irano-Nordoid (using Cosine similarity). According to Euclidean Distance: You are metrically closest to Plate 16, Figure 3 (distance = 5) You are metrically furthest from Plate 5, Figure 1 (distance = 51) According to Mahalanobis Distance: You are metrically closest to Plate 24, Figure 4 (distance = 3) You are metrically furthest from Plate 10, Figure 5 (distance = 115) According to Cosine Similarity: You are metrically closest to Plate 16, Figure 3 (similarity = 0.7) You are metrically furthest from Plate 43, Figure 4 (similarity = -0.754) Great job Dienekes. Although I must say that I think I got something wrong with these measurments, 'cause I'm not sure if I believe these results. Is there any more precise way to measure yourself? Somebody said something about aluminum folly. P.S. I know how ignorant this may sound, but what is Irano-Nordid ;D. Sure, I know of Nordid's but I haven't heard of Irano-Nordid. P.P.S. The reason I doubt my results is because the Nordids, as I know it are supposed to be blonde, and I'm not blond in any way. You've probably mistaken the measurements a bit. Irano-Nordoid would be a metrically nordid-shaped phenotype. There are actually large populations of Nordoid types, but only some of them are blonde. I think I've seen your picture on Skadi, but I'd be damned if I remember anything.
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Post by AWAR on Jan 8, 2005 21:13:13 GMT -5
can these plates and figures be found anywhere;; Not at the moment, no. The results were on the old legion Europa site which is down now. Perhaps if you find some site which archived this, you could take a look.
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Post by Svarog on Jan 9, 2005 10:31:01 GMT -5
Your cephalic index is: 71.5 (dolichocephalic) Your height/length index is: 62.3 (orthocephalic) Your height/breadth index is: 87.2 (acrocephalic) Your facial index is: 97.8 (hyperleptoprosopic) Your upper facial index is: 58.4 (leptene) Your nasal index is: 58.2 (leptorrhine) Your estimated endocranial volume is: 1474 cc (aristencephalic) Your estimated brain weight is: 1375 gr
Euclidean Distance Mahalanobis Distance Cosine Similarity Proto-Europoid: 21 50 -0.09 Mediterranoid: 16 28 -0.03 Alpinoid: 17 26 -0.59 Irano-Nordoid: 5 4 0.79 Dinaroid: 13 15 -0.05
Your classification is Irano-Nordoid (using Euclidean distance), Irano-Nordoid (using Mahalanobis distance), and Irano-Nordoid (using Cosine similarity).
According to Euclidean Distance:
You are metrically closest to Plate 30, Figure 4 (distance = 4) You are metrically furthest from Plate 5, Figure 1 (distance = 61)
According to Mahalanobis Distance: You are metrically closest to Plate 30, Figure 4 (distance = 2) You are metrically furthest from Plate 5, Figure 1 (distance = 144)
According to Cosine Similarity: You are metrically closest to Plate 30, Figure 4 (similarity = 0.83) You are metrically furthest from Plate 14, Figure 3 (similarity = -0.701)
Well, I did it again, and this time I used a piece of paper, and it seems that I have gotten more or less the same results.
AWAR, thank you for your help. I really wasn't aware of the existence of the non-blond Nordids.
Pozdrav care.
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Post by hansel on Jan 9, 2005 16:37:07 GMT -5
Not at the moment, no. The results were on the old legion Europa site which is down now. Perhaps if you find some site which archived this, you could take a look. ok i found something... racialreality.shorturl.com/ search for a link caucasoid races ,then photo supplement but most of the pics would not load,,don't know y
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Post by tatc on Jan 12, 2005 0:22:10 GMT -5
Your cephalic index is: 76.2 (mesocephalic) Your height/length index is: 60.5 (orthocephalic) Your height/breadth index is: 79.4 (metriocephalic) Your facial index is: 84.8 (mesoprosopic) Your upper facial index is: 55.2 (mesene) Your nasal index is: 60.4 (leptorrhine) Your estimated endocranial volume is: 1565 cc (aristencephalic) Your estimated brain weight is: 1472 gr
Euclidean Distance Mahalanobis Distance Cosine Similarity Proto-Europoid: 15 12 0.46 Mediterranoid: 31 68 -0.43 Alpinoid: 15 17 0.3 Irano-Nordoid: 21 34 -0.11 Dinaroid: 21 22 -0.12
Your classification is Proto-Europoid (using Euclidean distance), Proto-Europoid (using Mahalanobis distance), and Proto-Europoid (using Cosine similarity).
Proto-Europoid is a pretty acurate estimate considering the descriptions of this type; I have a large head ;D
But these plates.. Where can they be found??
BTW: I´m swedish, 176 cm tall, 21 years of age on the pic
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Post by alexandrian on Jan 13, 2005 22:35:35 GMT -5
I took both tests. For my racial classification, I was assigned as a Dinaroid in all three measurements. I am an Armo-Egyptian so this made sense. None of my measurements in the Caucasian RAcial analysis were classified as weird. However, when I applies my same measurements from the Dinaroid to the Black/White test- I was 95% Negro. How in the world? Also, in terms of the Black/White chart I measured my features twice- once I was 95% Negroid, the other time I was 98% Caucasian. That seems weird. I have white/olive skin, thin lips, a prominent, Roman/Semitic nose (many people think I'm Jewish), straight brown hair, bushy eyebrows, and I'm pretty hairy. NOne of these are Negroid characteristics. With such varied results, which one(s) should I believe? Also, I used a stiff ruler- so the measurements are probably off seeing as I had to make a lot of inferences. Also, does my being a minor (and thus my growth hasn't leveled off) have any bearing on this? Either way, I consider myself Mediterranean Caucasian, as most people consider me. Being classified as Dinaroid only confirmed this.
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Post by AWAR on Jan 13, 2005 23:00:14 GMT -5
As it says in the introduction, the 'black or white' calc is far from being perfect. It doesn't take very many measurements into account, so don't take it personally Also, if you have time, post your pics for classification. Perhaps there's some clue as to why the BW calc went wrong. Perhaps your head is long and your head-height low...etc.
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Post by alexandrian on Jan 13, 2005 23:13:41 GMT -5
As it says in the introduction, the 'black or white' calc is far from being perfect. It doesn't take very many measurements into account, so don't take it personally Also, if you have time, post your pics for classification. Perhaps there's some clue as to why the BW calc went wrong. Perhaps your head is long and your head-height low...etc. hey..thanks for the explanation...I must admit I was initially shocked but I do realize that the calculator doesn't take hair style, lip size, eyebrows, etc. Also, using a ruler proved difficult as I would get different results each time...being a minor I think I might need time to grow.....as for the pics...maybe later, I just joined today so I'm a bit apprehensive By the way, thank you for a great site, I'd like to thank you for refuting horrendous and offensive AFrocentrist/Nordicist claims of Ancient Egyptians. I'm staunchly proud of my Mediterranean heritage (we created the modern world) so seeing a site administered by Mediterraneans and standing up for the Mediterranean people is re-assuring.
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Post by number3 on Mar 28, 2005 1:21:32 GMT -5
My results:
Your cephalic index is: 76.8 (mesocephalic) Your height/length index is: 63.1 (hypsicephalic) Your height/breadth index is: 82.2 (metriocephalic) Your facial index is: 92.6 (leptoprosopic) Your upper facial index is: 54.8 (mesene) Your nasal index is: 63.6 (leptorrhine) Your estimated endocranial volume is: 1419 cc (euencephalic) Your estimated brain weight is: 1316 gr
Proto-Europoid: 22 62 -0.42 Mediterranoid: 7 8 0.4 Alpinoid: 10 16 -0.29 Irano-Nordoid: 4 4 0.58 Dinaroid: 12 20 -0.39
Your classification is Irano-Nordoid (using Euclidean distance), Irano-Nordoid (using Mahalanobis distance), and Irano-Nordoid (using Cosine similarity).
Here are my measurements (I think they're fairly accurate, but not 100%)
Head Length: 198mm Head Breadth: 152mm Head Height: 125mm Min Frontal: 100mm Bizygomatic: 135mm Bigonial: 115mm Total Face Ht: 125mm Upper Face Ht: 74mm Nasal Height: 55mm Nasal Breadth: 35mm
According to this, I am metrically closest to the Irano-Nordoid type. What types does this include? Judging by the name [Irano-Nordoid], I'm guessing this includes types of the Iran/Afghanistan areas and the Nordid types (Keltid, Skandid). Are there anymore? Would the Atlanto-Med types be included here?
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