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Post by chairface on Jan 18, 2004 21:30:47 GMT -5
Who is more Nordish looking? Chuck Norris - half Cherokee, half Irish  or Heinrich Himmler - head of the Nazi Gestapo  |
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Post by Agrippa on Jan 18, 2004 23:25:29 GMT -5
The funny thing is that I would say Chuck is looking more Nordic and Himmler is looking more European.
Because Chuck looks somewhat untypical Nordic, untypical European but Himmler looks typical for many Central Europeans.
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Post by geirr on Jan 19, 2004 3:04:24 GMT -5
Are you sure Chuck Norris is half cherokee? If you like the term nordish then I would say that Walker Texas Ranger is more nordish looking.
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Post by Razmig on Jan 19, 2004 7:27:14 GMT -5
Chucks father is part AmerInd (otherwise his last name wouldnt be Norris), and his mom is English/Irish. I'd say Chuck looks typical American Nordic, and Himmler can be annonymous European...or even then some (he looks like my uncle).
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Jan 19, 2004 9:13:08 GMT -5
Chucks father is part AmerInd (otherwise his last name wouldnt be Norris), and his mom is English/Irish. I'd say Chuck looks typical American Nordic, and Himmler can be annonymous European...or even then some (he looks like my uncle). Many American Amerindians adopted European surnames without mixing with the colonizers. The Pueblo Amerindians in the southwest have Spanish surnames for example. I doubt he’s half Indian anyway. By the way, something you said in Skadi got my attention: Not really. The first slave in Mexico (without counting the Amerindians other Amerindians enslaved) was a Black man brought by one of Cortés’ Captains from Cuba. The first people of Jewish ancestry who stepped foot in what would become Mexico were a couple of free Converso Sailors and the treasurer of Hernán Cortés himself. Some Jews mixed with some Amerindians producing Mestizo Jews who are still around, whereas others mixed with Spaniards. The first colonizers of Monterrey(one of the three most important cities here) were Conversos and Tlaxcalan Amerindians from central Mexico who had fought with the Spaniards against the Aztecs. www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/sefard5.htm |
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Post by Necronomicom on Jan 19, 2004 10:26:14 GMT -5
there is no possible way Chuck Norris is half indian, maybe 1/16, 1/32, or 1/8 at most.
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Jan 19, 2004 12:20:42 GMT -5
This late Mexican politician was indeed half Amerindian (Mazahua), half German, which is quite funny considering what Steve Sailer had to say about him:  Nonetheless, the Mexican elite tends to look strikingly European. In Tim Burton's affectionate biopic Ed Wood about the worst movie director in history, our hero Ed runs into his hero Orson Welles. The great man complains that in his new film A Touch of Evil, the idiotic studio has cast Charlton Heston as a Mexican! This seemed awfully funny, until I was looking through the handy pictures of top Mexican politicians and drug barons (not mutually exclusive categories) included in Andres Oppenheimer's luridly frank portrait of Mexico, Bordering on Chaos. There I saw a photo of Hank Gonzales, former Mayor of Mexico City and billionaire. (His motto: "A politician who is poor is a poor politician"). Damn, if he didn't look like Chuck Heston's brother. And everyone else looks pure Spanish. www.vdare.com/sailer/mexico_part2.htm Mazahuas in Mexico City P.s. He used to have an entire zoo in his house in Mexico City. You could even hear the sounds of the Animals from the street. |
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Post by Agrippa on Jan 19, 2004 19:08:53 GMT -5
there is no possible way Chuck Norris is half indian, maybe 1/16, 1/32, or 1/8 at most. I saw even people calling themselves "Indians" which were more Nordid than many "white"/European Ameicans. Many North American tribes are just totally mixed up. Even if he has a "Indian" parent this does not have to mean he was Amerindian (Indianid) in race. More than 1/4 seems really unprobable. |
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Post by Razmig on Jan 23, 2004 7:12:01 GMT -5
Many American Amerindians adopted European surnames without mixing with the colonizers. The Pueblo Amerindians in the southwest have Spanish surnames for example. I doubt he’s half Indian anyway. By the way, something you said in Skadi got my attention: Not really. The first slave in Mexico (without counting the Amerindians other Amerindians enslaved) was a Black man brought by one of Cortés’ Captains from Cuba. The first people of Jewish ancestry who stepped foot in what would become Mexico were a couple of free Converso Sailors and the treasurer of Hernán Cortés himself. Some Jews mixed with some Amerindians producing Mestizo Jews who are still around, whereas others mixed with Spaniards. The first colonizers of Monterrey(one of the three most important cities here) were Conversos and Tlaxcalan Amerindians from central Mexico who had fought with the Spaniards against the Aztecs. www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/sefard5.htmWhoops I think you misunderstood me about the Jews (I didnt mean they were the first slaves). It's known the first Jew in Mexico however, came as a server/worker (basically a slave), but obviously with more rights than a black at that time. *EDIT* Never mind about the Jews (I was lied to!). Heres info about the first Jews in Mexico if anyones interested. www.amyisrael.co.il/na/mexico/ |
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Post by Razmig on Jan 23, 2004 7:18:23 GMT -5
I saw even people calling themselves "Indians" which were more Nordid than many "white"/European Ameicans. Many North American tribes are just totally mixed up. Even if he has a "Indian" parent this does not have to mean he was Amerindian (Indianid) in race. More than 1/4 seems really unprobable. How do we know for sure the original AMERINDS werent related to the people who later spread into europe? Perhaps the Mongoloids that spread across the Asian/Alaskan plateu werent as pronounced as those in China...but many Indians have white features, I agree..It's all in consideration. Nothing is factual, theres no true way of knowing, not yet anyway. |
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