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Post by murphee on Jan 15, 2006 14:48:39 GMT -5
The glorification of sex is what disturbs me. I see it as a private act...and it is plastered all over the billboards now, so to speak.
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 15, 2006 14:56:37 GMT -5
The real question is: are we getting more sex in the bedroom? I don´t think so. It´s just being made a display, like Murphee says. There´s a very twisted ideology behind all this.
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 15, 2006 15:45:52 GMT -5
No need to create opponents. Those advocating sexual liberation are known groups like Feminist, gay activists, left-wing entertainers and artists, etc. They are real.
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Post by alaina on Jan 15, 2006 20:17:52 GMT -5
No need to create opponents. Those advocating sexual liberation are known groups like Feminist, gay activists, left-wing entertainers and artists, etc. They are real. This is true, and this is what perplexes me. The image we are being fed is of the sexually 'liberated' woman, who is essence, like a man, making one sexual conquest after another, and not feeling the 'emotional attachment', women are traditionally believed to feel, unlike most men. This is incredibly damaging to young women. I know young women that are imbibing this message and using it to justify sleeping around. Instead of liberation, these girls usually suffer from emotional problems that make them feel they need the attention of men in this way. Women attach emotion with sex, generally. This is the way we are wired. Those who try to divorce that from us only cause more damage than they are attempting to 'fix.'
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 15, 2006 22:29:21 GMT -5
No need to create opponents. Those advocating sexual liberation are known groups like Feminist, gay activists, left-wing entertainers and artists, etc. They are real. This is true, and this is what perplexes me. The image we are being fed is of the sexually 'liberated' woman, who is essence, like a man, making one sexual conquest after another, and not feeling the 'emotional attachment', women are traditionally believed to feel, unlike most men. This is incredibly damaging to young women. I know young women that are imbibing this message and using it to justify sleeping around. Instead of liberation, these girls usually suffer from emotional problems that make them feel they need the attention of men in this way. Women attach emotion with sex, generally. This is the way we are wired. Those who try to divorce that from us only cause more damage than they are attempting to 'fix.' Do you ever think this "liberation" is fed by men back to women?
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Post by alaina on Jan 15, 2006 22:53:41 GMT -5
This is true, and this is what perplexes me. The image we are being fed is of the sexually 'liberated' woman, who is essence, like a man, making one sexual conquest after another, and not feeling the 'emotional attachment', women are traditionally believed to feel, unlike most men. This is incredibly damaging to young women. I know young women that are imbibing this message and using it to justify sleeping around. Instead of liberation, these girls usually suffer from emotional problems that make them feel they need the attention of men in this way. Women attach emotion with sex, generally. This is the way we are wired. Those who try to divorce that from us only cause more damage than they are attempting to 'fix.' Do you ever think this "liberation" is fed by men back to women? I don't know where it originated, but women do a good job feeding it to other women.
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Post by stella22 on Jan 15, 2006 23:03:42 GMT -5
I think there is pressure by young men for women to be the 'liberated' type. Young men are not established and aren't ready to commit generally. I think this is natural. Of course, their ideal girl is going to be the type who doesn't get attached and is admirably independent.
The problem isn't the young men who want a liberated girl or the young women who need emotional fulfillment. They problem is more related to society's current rule that we should date others our own age.
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Post by Toasty on Jan 16, 2006 1:28:59 GMT -5
Unfortunetly yes, and it's going to get worse before it gets better.
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Post by asdf on Jan 16, 2006 2:02:16 GMT -5
The problem isn't the young men who want a liberated girl or the young women who need emotional fulfillment. They problem is more related to society's current rule that we should date others our own age. That is a very good point. It's no coincidence females are younger and males older when they're more compatible in terms of sexual and emotional need.
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Post by Jack Reed on Jan 23, 2006 20:44:36 GMT -5
The culture is too sexual. I'm not bothered or troubled by tasteful sensuality, but overt sexuality should be kept out of the mainstream culture. OTOH, I'm skeptical of *men* who are prudish crusaders for morality. Many of them, like Jimmy Swaggart, are hypocrites.
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Post by Atreyu on Jan 25, 2006 6:43:21 GMT -5
So what the dilly yo? Compare the look of a female pop star in the 80s to that of today: Cover of a Debbie Gibson album:  Cover of a Britney Spears album:  compare America to European countrys namely northern countries and the answer is no.
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Post by Platypus on Jan 26, 2006 10:40:53 GMT -5
The answer for me is simply. Advertising today uses Pornography. In short is all a pubblicity stunt
advertising has certainly used good looking people and sexual allusion from the start but advertisers have learned today that something linked with the representation of sex and nudity will certainly catch the eye and go on newspapers and tv news and 'sell the product' :a Record, a movie, a diet product etc.
Think of 'Basic Instinct', it was a great success. The story was a thriller, but because of the fact that Sharon Stone opened her legs and the rumors of real sex on set, it made such a mass of publicity that the film became an instant hit.
In Media , explicit sexual language or representation is introduced because the producers know it will make it in the tabloids the day before the release of the product .
useless people such as Paris Hilton have learned how to use pornography as a pubblicity vehicles and to cash big buck's on it.
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Post by nockwasright on Jan 26, 2006 11:38:00 GMT -5
Culture is getting more openly sexual as an effect of freedom and democracy. The more the social/economic barriers are turned down, the less elitism we have in a society, necessarily general culture becomes more gross in any respect. Openly sexual and vulgar jokes have always been appreciated by the lower classes. Now that everybody earns enought to be the buyer of popular culture and that there is no more the will of the elites who produce such culture to instruct and guide the masses or to impose their values (except a generic pcness and sincretic non judgmentalism that do not have the intrinsic coerence to be labelled system of values), masses finally get what they want.
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Post by Atreyu on Jan 26, 2006 12:54:16 GMT -5
  Both these ancient sculptures are very sexual. where the ancient romans and greeks too sexual?Maybe not during there time but certianly during medieval age.
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Post by gambin on Jan 26, 2006 13:18:58 GMT -5
compare America to European countrys namely northern countries and the answer is no. Interesting. Would you mind elaborating though, or giving examples. I've seen some Italian variety shows, and they tend to be quite sexual and southern Europeans are somewhat stereotyped as being more lewd or lusty than their northern counterparts. Is your statement undermining the stereotype?
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