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Post by anodyne on Jan 14, 2006 15:11:22 GMT -5
So what the dilly yo? Compare the look of a female pop star in the 80s to that of today: Cover of a Debbie Gibson album:  Cover of a Britney Spears album: 
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Post by stella22 on Jan 14, 2006 16:55:02 GMT -5
Interesting comparison. Hmm.. well, I think that in the US we've become more comfortable with nudity or near nudity. But contrary to this, it seems like we've become more romantic in a sense. Girls now dream of a big romantic wedding and finding their soulmate. In the seventies and early eighties, settling down was considered passe and partner swaping was all the rage. One night stands were a popular past time and no big deal.
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Post by Educate Me on Jan 14, 2006 17:55:47 GMT -5
I think culture was as sexual is the 80´s as nowadays, maybe more
sex scenes in mainstream hollywood movies were extremely common in the 80´s, and now, since the 90´s rather unusual.
Stella, in the 70´s and early 80´s you could screw anything without fears, I think aids is responsible for changing that.
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Post by asdf on Jan 14, 2006 20:16:24 GMT -5
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Post by zemelmete on Jan 15, 2006 0:47:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I think todays culture is too sexual. It makes me sick.
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Post by murphee on Jan 15, 2006 3:15:47 GMT -5
I agree. It strikes me as cheap and tawdry.
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Post by Lada on Jan 15, 2006 4:54:44 GMT -5
Yes, it is. And many female celebrities, especially singers, act in their videos like street girls, thinking this is only way to be sexy. Its sad, because they are usually so attractive, that they don't need act like this.
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Post by gelaye on Jan 15, 2006 9:09:20 GMT -5
this change in attitude towards sexual images is apparantly being called a form of post feminism and womens liberation.....which is true in a sense - women have had enough of being used purely as sex objects, so they demand education and equal rights, then they get tired of being equal to men and unsexy in their 80s short hair cuts and big power suits - so they find an equilibrium - be a clever, equal status, human being that can use their sexuality/body to their advantage (something they couldnt do ever before!)
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 9:44:45 GMT -5
Most singers and musicians today have really talent to sell records so selling an image takes priority over substance.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 15, 2006 10:34:12 GMT -5
Madonna is a better example than Debbie Gibson as 1980s pop star but songs like "Like a Virgin" and others don't really compare to songs like "Dirty" by Aguilera. Madonna was more tame in the 80s than she was in the 90s, but she was the trend setter.
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Post by gelaye on Jan 15, 2006 10:52:17 GMT -5
Madonna is a better example than Debbie Gibson as 1980s pop star but songs like "Like a Virgin" and others don't really compare to songs like "Dirty" by Aguilera. Madonna was more tame in the 80s than she was in the 90s, but she was the trend setter. haha its wierd whenever i hear the song ''dirty'' i always start thinking about society today hahaha (honestly)
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Post by gambin on Jan 15, 2006 12:56:10 GMT -5
We have become "dirty". To me, Howard Stern comes to mind. The proliferation of Porn via the Internet kindve helped this thing big time.
Also I noticed that since the late 90s the "Pimp" has become glorified and heroicized. I don't think the wrestling's "godfather" had much to do with it either. We do we glorify one of the ugliest professions?
Oh yeah and with regards to this topic: what's the line between being reasonably critical of the oversexed society and being a boring, ultra-conservative, lame, old-fashioned, goody-two-shoes "moralist"?
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Post by gelaye on Jan 15, 2006 13:04:23 GMT -5
We have become "dirty". To me, Howard Stern comes to mind. The proliferation of Porn via the Internet kindve helped this thing big time. Also I noticed that since the late 90s the "Pimp" has become glorified and heroicized. I don't think the wrestling's "godfather" had much to do with it either. We do we glorify one of the ugliest professions? Oh yeah and with regards to this topic: what's the line between being reasonably critical of the oversexed society and being a boring, ultra-conservative, lame, old-fashioned, goody-two-shoes "moralist"? the line is where it stops being harmless flirty, sexy fun, and where it turns to kind of deragatorive almost scary types of sexual imagery - for example, girls dancing like whores in clubs is fine as long as theyre laughing about it amongst themselves about it and having a good time, or music videos with singers in underwear are cool as long as its shot nicely, and not cheaply and 'realisticly' i think when it becomes to realistic then it hits home that 'wait this is really graphic'. but everyone has their opinions. i dont really get shocked by much of the sexual images around today but maybe thats cos i have only really been alivie thru the 90s and the noughties lol. i do sometimes think in my head that 'maybe were going a bit too far' when i see some of the lads mags around and some of the mobile phone adverts placed in kids magazines that have downloadable porn and screensavers of lesbians etc (this is in the UK btw)
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jan 15, 2006 13:20:31 GMT -5
I say no!
Sex has and always been dominate in society,whether direct or indirect,sexual or erotic .Its in various art forms including writing,painting,films,music,plays,dancing ect. throughout the centuries.
However during the 1960's it has run around without discipline in the homes,politics and media, and progressively gotten carried away with by being taken in the wrong direction and allowed into the wrong hands of people .
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 15, 2006 13:49:06 GMT -5
It seems some people believe today´s culture is not sexual enough, which may be the reason we are overexposed to sexual contents. Human primary sex drive is unchanging, but its cultural manifestation has obviously been altered for some reason. Ultimately it might be just be an effort from the left to wipe out the last remains of traditional culture, for political reasons.
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