Africa Wasn't Negroid Until Historic Times

[eufrenio]

I found this at RM´s blog :

Africa Wasn't Negroid Until Historic Times
racialreality.blogspot.com/2005/01/africa-wasnt-negroid-until-historic.html

"True" Black Africans appear as a recent adaptive radiation in the above dendrograms, apparently branching off from an ancestral Pygmy population -- a line of ancestry also indicated by osteological data (Coon 1962:651-656; Watson et al. 1996). This radiation seems to have occurred somewhere in West Africa. Before the Bantu expansion about 3,000 years ago, true Black Africans were absent from the continent's central, eastern, and southern regions (Cavalli-Sforza 1986:361-362; Oliver 1966). They were also absent from the middle Nile until about 4,000 years ago, at which time they begin to appear in paintings from Pharaonic Egypt and in skeletal remains from Nubia (Junker 1921).

racialreality.blogspot.com/2005/01/africa-wasnt-negroid-until-historic.html


Any comments?

[Epic]

Responses:

Cranial remains at Asselar in the Sahara 4400 BC, Tamaya Mellet 5000 BC also in the Saharan, and Iwo Eleru(10,000 BC) in West Nigerian are all Negroid. The person who wrote that BS failed to say what he/she meant by "true black Africans."
Said_Mohammad | Email | 01.25.05 - 6:35 am | #

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The Negroids did evolve in Africa, the question is when did they populate the rest of the continent. Nigerian or Algerian sites say very little about the earliest arrival of the Negroid race to other parts of Africa.
Dienekes | Email | Homepage | 01.25.05 - 6:39 pm | #

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It’s strange that you should quote Frost on such a complex issue, given that he publishes social Anthropology papers. Anyone who remembers his posts on Yahoo groups is aware that he also claimed that Mongoloids and Caucasoids were the same people( race) until approximately the Neolithic which earned the following response from Brace:

[Frost]


There is something wildly out of whack with a date such as that. The
archaeology of Europe, the Middle East and the Far East provides
absolutely no support for for any such possibility. The larger picture of the genetic relationships of Asian populatons with the rest of the world documented by Chu et al. (Proc. Nat. Acad. Sci. USA, 95:11763-11768[1998])supports a radically different point of view but one much more in accord with the archaeological evidence.
[Brace]

Oh well.
hmm | 01.26.05 - 3:52 am | #

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oops, Frost's words were cut. Here they are.

[Frost]
hmm | 01.26.05 - 3:54 am | #

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final try:

"The Caucasoid/Mongoloid split could not have occured much earlier than 10,000 years ago".
hmm | 01.26.05 - 3:54 am | #

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"The Negroids did evolve in Africa, the question is when did they populate the rest of the continent. Nigerian or Algerian sites say very little about the earliest arrival of the Negroid race to other parts of Africa."

The cranial evidence is there, I've posted on this numerous times. Negroids of the Elongated type are found in East Africa dating back since the Mesolithic(Hiernaux,1975)so cranial evidence isn't lacking, the question at hand here is the author's use of the words "true African." What about "true Europeans and true Asians?"
Said Mohammad | Email | 01.26.05 - 9:03 am | #

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I think "true African" in this context means Negroid African by opposition to Caucasoid African (mainly the caucasoid types who live in northern africa).
Etrusco | Email | Homepage | 01.27.05 - 1:03 am | #

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"I think "true African" in this context means Negroid African by opposition to Caucasoid African (mainly the caucasoid types who live in northern africa)."

The earliest Northwest Africans were NOT Caucasoids.
Said mohammad | Email | 01.28.05 - 8:57 am | #

[Igu]

How did they look? close to middle easteners or were a type of bushman?

[nordicyouth]

Calm down Human.

[neptunefix]

So, were the resulting (negroid) africans that now populate certain regions of Africa so dominant, that they flushed out whichever races that were previously present in Africa? Such fertile lands, seems like Africa would have been too good of a place to leave without reason.

[Tautamo]

This is speculation and not conclusive. "like duh"

Its all theories most of you act as if its truth.