Who believes "Black Power is racist

[Planet Asia]

anodyne said:

aroundtheworld said:

There are lots of non-black who help black empowerment. That's what abolitionist were.

The majority of abolitionsist were racists. They didn't believe that blacks were there equals, nor did they want anything to do with blacks. They were against slavery because they believed it was morally wrong but it never crossed their mind that blacks were their equals. John Brown, Garrison, and probably Spooner are the only abolitionists I know of who felt blacks were equals to whites.

The black power movement is rather silly. It has more to do with losing one self in a group than standing out as someone who can be proud of their own achievements. I notice the people who go on about black power are not unlike those whites who go on about white power. Neither have their own achievements to be proud of so they latch on to the accomplishments of others. As if someone elses success is their own simply because they have the same color skin. Group pride is such a stupid belief.

When have black power advocates ever latched on to the achievements of others?

[alaina]

anodyne said:

As if someone elses success is their own simply because they have the same color skin. Group pride is such a stupid belief.

I agree.

[anodyne]

bertrand said:

anodyne said:

The majority of abolitionsist were racists. They didn't believe that blacks were there equals, nor did they want anything to do with blacks. They were against slavery because they believed it was morally wrong but it never crossed their mind that blacks were their equals. John Brown, Garrison, and probably Spooner are the only abolitionists I know of who felt blacks were equals to whites.

The black power movement is rather silly. It has more to do with losing one self in a group than standing out as someone who can be proud of their own achievements. I notice the people who go on about black power are not unlike those whites who go on about white power. Neither have their own achievements to be proud of so they latch on to the accomplishments of others. As if someone elses success is their own simply because they have the same color skin. Group pride is such a stupid belief.

When have black power advocates ever latched on to the achievements of others?

I guess you haven't notice how black "advocates" tend to point to some obscure, or well known, black and go on and on about them as if this some how changes the situtation of blacks. To most blacks its pointless because what another black achieves has nothing to do with their lives. This push to put in obscure black and Latinos in history books, for example, to give self esteem to black and latino youth is pointless considering self esteem doesn't come from what others have achieved but from what you accomplish for yourself.

[Planet Asia]

alaina said:

anodyne said:

As if someone elses success is their own simply because they have the same color skin. Group pride is such a stupid belief.

I agree.

I agree too. At my job for example, the ones most likely to stab me in the back are other blacks, but on the other hand where I'm from, the ones most likely to help you are black also.

[Planet Asia]

anodyne said:

bertrand said:

When have black power advocates ever latched on to the achievements of others?

I guess you haven't notice how black "advocates" tend to point to some obscure, or well known, black and go on and on about them as if this some how changes the situtation of blacks. To most blacks its pointless because what another black achieves has nothing to do with their lives. This push to put in obscure black and Latinos in history books, for example, to give self esteem to black and latino youth is pointless considering self esteem doesn't come from what others have achieved but from what you accomplish for yourself.

If you look all in history books the one who is pushing the agenda of race equals success are whites. History books are flooded with how whites changed the world and "civilized" nonwhites, whats the matter with having a scholastics that encompas the achievements of all peoples of different backgrounds? I'm personally sick and tired and reading about Europe in history books, in high school I had world history in 9th and 10th grade and both "world history" classes focused primarily about Europe, from Greece and Rome to the Dark Ages to the Renaissance to WW2, very little attention was paid to the rest of world unless it involved Europe, e.g. colonialism, exploration and imperialism. It isn't about trying to boost self esteem, its about adding balance.

[anodyne]

If you look all in history books the one who is pushing the agenda of race equals success are whites.

Dude, Western civilization is successful and is the prime mover in world history. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with who the movers and shakers are throughout history. They tended to be white. It's just the way history played out. African civilizations don't have an impact on the modern world.

History books are flooded with how whites changed the world and "civilized" nonwhites, whats the matter with having a scholastics that encompas the achievements of all peoples of different backgrounds?

Because not all achievements play an important role in history. Martin Luther King Jr. is someone who should be mentioned since his movement had huge impact in the US and in other countries (for example, in Northern Ireland during the 60s) but black Americans and black Africans, for the most part, didn't play a huge role in world affairs.

I'm personally sick and tired and reading about Europe in history books, in high school I had world history in 9th and 10th grade and both "world history" classes focused primarily about Europe, from Greece and Rome to the Dark Ages to the Renaissance to WW2, very little attention was paid to the rest of world unless it involved Europe, e.g. colonialism, exploration and imperialism. It isn't about trying to boost self esteem, its about adding balance.

I'm sorry but Europeans have been the major players on the world stage. Western culture has influenced the entire world. Look at China... a great civilization. They adopted Communism, which is a Western ideology. We can't understand Western culture, which dominates the world (and not by force), unless we focus on Western history.

[human2]

wadad said:

eufrenio said:

Yes. It is openly racist as well, so it´s no mistery.

Yes its (or I should say it was, nobody talks about Black Power nowadays) openly racist.

At the same time I give Black Americans some slack because they have yet to participate in the art of latent/concealed racism that Whites perfected over the years. Black racism isnt as advanced as that yet

You can't have concealed racism when you don't have power...

[gambin]

There are many types of "concealed racism". And believe me, "whites" don't exactly have the monopoly on it.

[Planet Asia]

Racism is nothing without the power to manipulate things.