PAGAN POWER IN MODERN EUROPE - AND AN HINDU'S VIEW

[greatness]

That Magi theory is a load of BS created by Muslims so they can convince themselves that what all the bloodshed they committed was not real. face it.

If u knew anything about Iran u would know that the Magi predated Zoroastrianism, and in fact they felt threatened by Zoroastrianism and killed by Zoroastrians. In fact Dariush fought and killed the Magi who tried to supplant him. It is written all over Behistun and it even shows him defeating the Magi. You either read your info off an Arab propaganda site or a EUropean site. THey dont know anything about Zoroastrianism.

BTW, I am a realist. Did the Zoroastrians inevitably commit some atrocities? I wont lie, like any other religion YES. But these were committed by a few individuals, no where near the scale that Islam has killed. THe Quran actually legitimizes killing "infidels". my grandmother is a very harsh muslim, so trust me i know.

And do u know anything about the atrocities muslims committed. They killed many Persians and Mesopotamians, and raped Iraq until it became Arab, they cut the tongue out of anyone who didn't speak Arabic. And Persians didn't just give up and accept Islam. Even your Arab historians record the battles that we inevitably lost after being drained from our war with Rome. READ YOUR HISTORY

[Wadaad]

the Quran legitimizes killing infidels who attack you...ie kill them in self defense. Your other points are valid though, give me something to read about zoroastians then

[arun]

It is evident from history that the whole civilized world accross southern Europe,Persia and India was immensely tortured by Muslims. While Europe resisted
by embressing christianity,Persia fell and in India 80% of the population still are Hindu.
It is a henous method to attack a civilization by seeking sabotage from
within it by its lower casts and forgiven criminals. But muslims did it everywhere.
Even Christian missionaries also tries to convert them and bring them to their side.

[arun]

It is high time for the most civilized well mannered and good,open hearted races of the earth (South Europeans,Shia Persians and Indians)to get together again and go back to their original root.
It should be remembered that we share same
cultural heritage for years.Through land and sea those
regions were regularly in contact before the arab occupation of Mediterannian sea.
Those who question about the same cultural
values answer me wheather Racism died in Europe for the advent of christianity or not. That racism is the base of caste system in India(With that genetic nature and behavier is also associated).

[arun]

I personally think that mutual respect and appreciation of beauty should be the base of a marriage.
So all the inter-racial marriages should be based upon solely that.
Still Iranians has not been able to accept Islam and
Mohammad fully. They have their own version of "sunnah". It is to be remembered that the "Parda" --Full body cover of Muslim women evolved in Iran and not in Arabia . That is due to the repeated rape committed by nomadic Arabs in Persia.And who does not know that Iranians are far more beautiful and civilized than Arabs.

[Outis]

arun said:

It is high time for the most civilized well mannered and good,open hearted races of the earth (South Europeans,Shia Persians and Indians)to get together again and go back to their original root.

I wholeheartedly agree!
Monotheism is the main reason why this world is fastly going down the drain. If we want to save the planet then we must get rid of the three abrahamic religions as soon as possible.

More essays on the subject here --> www.freeforumzone.com/viewmessaggi.aspx?f=34767&idd=420

Pagan power worldwide!!!

[Outis]

Oh, and another thing.
It is so cool to meet on this forum a zoroastrian like greatness or a hindu like arun, because they are part of two of the most ancient spiritual traditions of this world, for which I have the utmost respect and admiration.
Anyways, a pagan friend of mine will get to Iran in the next months, october I think, and he will stay there a whole month to make some researches and he will probably also get in touch with the local zoroastrian community.

That's it, keep it up, never surrender to the exclusivist intolerance of muslims, christians and jews. Someday we will finally get rid of them! ;D

[arun]

All the three abrahamic religions can not be followed in a civilized society.Many things which are out of scripture will definitely come.
In Europe there also developed various classes
which were not same in dignity.Catholics used to worship Mary as the mother-figure of human race. They
also prey to many saints.
One has to admit that god is with poor but
these poor fellows should be honest and should have
a sense of beauty and good heart.If a rich man has all
these then god is also with him.So god does not discriminate among men according to their wealth. Actually in most cases men are poor due to there lack
of knowledge and intelligence.

[Tautalos]

greatness said:

Tautalos,

I agree, Europe should return to its Pagan roots. CHristianity killed so many ppl in gaining control of Europe. In Iran we have the same problem. If u look into the past u will see how vile the muslim extremists were when they killed all the resisting Iranians and converted them to Islam. If only Iran could return to its Zoroastrian roots.

Yes. And, one of this days, who knows if we all (the sons of the Indo-Europeans) will not create a great Aryan Religious Alliance, uniting all the European Pagans, the Zoroastrians and the Hindus.

Hail Zeus - Ivppiter - Taranis - Odin - Perkunas - Perun - Ahura Mazda - Varuna

[Tautalos]

You lot sound like a bunch of hippies! And Tauto, I'm disappointed in you being Portuguese, rejecting fatima and yet seeking to adopt some barbarian traditons!

Troggie, Troggie, don't tell me that you are Portuguese... és portuguesa, menina?

Yes, I do reject Christianity, it's a foreign and universalistic religion, I have absolutely no reason to adhere to it; also, I do consider that the triumph of Christianity in the West was the worst disaster that ever happened in Europe.

As for barbarian traditions... barbarian traditions, dear Trog, are Christianity and Islam... because they are religions of folks that both the Romans and the Greeks, our ancestral Europeans, considered as barbarians...

Meanwhile, we the Portuguese also have a barbarian ancestry - Lusitania, the ancient Indo-European nation of Western Iberia, the strongest of Hispania and the most powerful enemies of the Roman legions.

Portanto, menina, Avé Reva - Júpiter

[Tautalos]

And do u know anything about the atrocities muslims committed. They killed many Persians and Mesopotamians, and raped Iraq until it became Arab, they cut the tongue out of anyone who didn't speak Arabic. And Persians didn't just give up and accept Islam. Even your Arab historians record the battles that we inevitably lost after being drained from our war with Rome. READ YOUR HISTORY

And Muslim cruelty was so refined and advanced, that they even killed dogs and throw their bodies into the Zoroastrians doors, because the dog is considered unclean by the Muslims and sacred to the Zoroastrians.

[Tautalos]

wadaad said:

the Quran legitimizes killing infidels who attack you...ie kill them in self defense. Your other points are valid though, give me something to read about zoroastians then

Is that right?

What about the abrogation of the peaceful verses by the verses ordering the destruction of the pagans?

humanists.net/alisina/janus_face_of_islam.htm

[Tautalos]

Instead of blaming Islam, look deep into the persian character

The problem is that Islam is oppressive in other parts of the world as well.

it seems now you just replaced the Magis for the Mullahs and oppression is again at full swing,

So, the problem was not the Zoroastrianism, after all.

maybe some new kind of tazis need to invade Iran

It's perhaps time for India to invade Iran, taking the Parsis back to their ancestral land...

[geo]

A zoroastrian has joined! Interesting.


Tautalos dont be too harsh on them monotheists

[Tautalos]

geo said:

A zoroastrian has joined! Interesting.


Tautalos dont be too harsh on them monotheists

Far from me to be harsh on monotheists, Geo... actually, some of them might come to our side...