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Post by SensoUnico on Apr 21, 2005 23:34:10 GMT -5
I do not believe in prophets or prophecy. I do not get it. Why do you care about how many Popes there will be or Daniel's or some other person's prophetic views. Most of those prophets would be locked away today, especially the ones who hear voices. That Teresa of Jesus was one serious nut case. Francis of Assisi, Claire both lunatics. Sorry, if you want to accept portends or soothsaying do what the Romans did. Read chicken intestines. By the way Isaac Newton was a genuis in science but he also was an occultist. He believed in astrology and argued with many scientists that did not believe. So his pronouncements outside of science has to be taken with a large dose of salt.
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Post by vela on Apr 21, 2005 23:57:55 GMT -5
I do not believe in prophets or prophecy. I do not get it. Why do you care about how many Popes there will be or Daniel's or some other person's prophetic views. Most of those prophets would be locked away today, especially the ones who hear voices. That Teresa of Jesus was one serious nut case. Francis of Assisi, Claire both lunatics. Sorry, if you want to accept portends or soothsaying do what the Romans did. Read chicken intestines. By the way Isaac Newton was a genuis in science but he also was an occultist. He believed in astrology and argued with many scientists that did not believe. So his pronouncements outside of science has to be taken with a large dose of salt. Is not like we're moving to live in a cave or anything, yet... Is just another one of those tangential topics spawned out of the Pope news. I generally agree with your view about prophets and prophecies. But there's a particular prophecy made by Daniel that I find amazing. It's the one about the statue with a head of gold, chest and arms of silver, etc. I haven't read Newton's interpretation about Daniel's prophecy, so I can't give any opinion about it. Interpretation is always the iffy side of every prophecy.
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Post by SensoUnico on Apr 22, 2005 4:01:12 GMT -5
That statue has already been explained. The gold is Babylonia, the silver the twin empire of the Medes and Persians, the bronze the Greco-Macedonian empire, the iron the Roman empire both east and west, and the iron plus clay represents the kingdoms formed after the fall of Rome, some being strong and others weak. The last bit the feet and toes are meant to represent the European and Asian leftovers of Rome
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Post by captainusa1 on Apr 22, 2005 22:59:51 GMT -5
That's why they called it the Great Disappointment. People actually gave away their money and property because they thought that the end of the world was just around the corner. Some of them stood on their rooftops, wearing white robes on the big day. It's a bit ironic that the Branch Davidians were an offshoot of the Seventh Day Adventists.
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Post by captainusa1 on Apr 22, 2005 23:03:59 GMT -5
I do not believe in prophets or prophecy. I do not get it. Why do you care about how many Popes there will be or Daniel's or some other person's prophetic views. Most of those prophets would be locked away today, especially the ones who hear voices. That Teresa of Jesus was one serious nut case. Francis of Assisi, Claire both lunatics. Sorry, if you want to accept portends or soothsaying do what the Romans did. Read chicken intestines. By the way Isaac Newton was a genuis in science but he also was an occultist. He believed in astrology and argued with many scientists that did not believe. So his pronouncements outside of science has to be taken with a large dose of salt. I believe in some of them. I'm not going to join any monasteries, though. Some of the lines in the Prophecy of the Popes make you wonder. For example, there was a solar eclipse on the dates of Pope John Paul II's birth and funeral.
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Post by murphee on Apr 23, 2005 3:07:04 GMT -5
I don't pay attention to prophecies. The world is going to end sometime, preferably not in my lifetime. ;D
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Post by SensoUnico on Apr 23, 2005 5:40:29 GMT -5
The world will not literally end, it is just that Jesus will come back probably with some modern touch like a snowboard especially made for cloud skiing and with the devil and his accolades being rappers blearing hideous music. I reckon the Papacy will end because it is so camp and as this last dead pope episode turned out to be, very boring.
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Post by murphee on Apr 23, 2005 12:53:37 GMT -5
The real ending will happen, unless humans cause an early demise, when the sun turns into a supernova or a giant asteroid hurtles towards us. Asteroid destruction is the best use of nuclear warheads. ;D
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Post by captainusa1 on Apr 23, 2005 23:07:49 GMT -5
The world ends every minute for someone. The result's the same whether one or five billion leave this "moital coral".
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Post by SensoUnico on Apr 25, 2005 8:03:50 GMT -5
That is just death. The world goes on without them. I did not know you were bugs bunny!
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Post by vela on Apr 25, 2005 17:51:27 GMT -5
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Post by henerte on May 6, 2005 10:00:00 GMT -5
A Slavic Pope
"Amid dissention-God our Lord strikes a huge bell for a Slavic Pope. Behold! an open throne. . . . Radiant as the sun, his face a lamp for servants, growing nations will follow him into the light where God is. To his prayers and his command, not only people but also the sun will stand, if he so commands, because of strength- a marvel it is; for strength is needed to uplift God's world. Behold he comes- the Slavic Pope - the people's brother. He shall dispense love as today our mighty ones distribute arms. Taking the world in his palm, he shall show a sacramental might. He shall cleanse every decay from the world's wounds - vermin, reptile. Health he shall bring, love encindle and the world he will save. Church interiors he shall sweep out, clean the hallway. God he shall show in the world's creation, bright as the day."
Julius Z. Slowacki, 1848
It's not a joke. This guy (Slowacki) was a polish poet and really wrote this poem.
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Post by Crimson Guard on May 8, 2005 18:10:03 GMT -5
All things come to an end...
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