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Post by k5125 on May 4, 2005 21:16:22 GMT -5
Thank you, I will keep you idiot in my special filing system which looks like a trash can. The point of this thread is nothing but pure and unadulterated racism. To non Arabs, non Iranians, you people look very much the same. Live with it. Eh...I don't know. I can usually tell the difference, and its not because of dress. Honestly, I think a lot of Iranians look more like Northern Indians than they do arabs.
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Post by Meddish on May 5, 2005 18:58:55 GMT -5
Yeah they think there white but a lot of them are less european looking than Arabs
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Post by KLI on May 6, 2005 5:06:28 GMT -5
I know what your'e saying there Meddish, but it really should not be about which group looks more European. Alot of this misplaced hatred is actually due to this sort of mentality, "I'm better than so and so or my people are better because we have more members approaching the european ideal than you do" Reminds me of Alexandrian almost.
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Post by Meddish on May 6, 2005 6:34:20 GMT -5
I know what your'e saying there Meddish, but it really should not be about which group looks more European. Alot of this misplaced hatred is actually due to this sort of mentality, "I'm better than so and so or my people are better because we have more members approaching the european ideal than you do" Reminds me of Alexandrian almost. Yes I agree, there is a strain world wide in the non-european world to try and be as "white" as possible.I dont think for example Syrians are better than Saudis because we look more "white" sadly also a lot of groups like NA,Iranians,Turks etc etc want to distance themselves from THIER Arabic/Islamic past because they feel inferior to western sociey and standards.What they failt to realise is Islamic culture is now ingrained in there psyche as a race and there history to a large extent is now also Islamic whether they like it or not.
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Post by zain on May 6, 2005 15:15:04 GMT -5
bedouins culture
that creature is called Dabb (Thub in arabic)
not typical for the most of the arab ,and yes some nomadic bedouins in the desert use to eat it as part of their survival , especially in dearth ,and famine.
bedoiuns main source of protein is sheep , goats ,and camel .(that is what Meddeleastern pastoral economic depending in ).
-Lamb: is almost their daily meal , they eat every thing from the sheep except the bones and the skin ,they use the skin for water carrier (a bottle) ,bedouins are professional in cooking lamb.
-Beef :they don't like it as much as lamb ,it is common in the urban society .
-camel (kind of a bigger cow) is eaten occasionally not common because it is expansive ,and not easy to kill ,it need many people(i have participated in killing one camel ,it was interesting experience ) the taste of the camel is close to the lamb and beef ,but it is strong meat ,not as soft as lamb.( it seems the bigger the animal the less tasty it become ,and the harder its meat)
- from wild life they eat Mountain's goats ,and rabbits .
Bedouin don't eat dogs ,cats ,foxes ,human ,snakes ,and horses .
Most bedouin today are very picky in what they eat ,they have food from all over the world even famous American fast food restaurants can be seen in their big cities , a waking distant from me i see Macdonald, Subway ,Burger king ,Kentucky chicken , and Dominoes pizza ,but still they can't compete with our arabic food ,which is more divers ,much cheaper and very delicious.
finally Bedouins are part of the meddeleast ,once they settle down they gradually adopting the rest of meddleastren culture .
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Post by Ardashir on May 7, 2005 9:46:14 GMT -5
Yes I agree, there is a strain world wide in the non-european world to try and be as "white" as possible.I dont think for example Syrians are better than Saudis because we look more "white" sadly also a lot of groups like NA,Iranians,Turks etc etc want to distance themselves from THIER Arabic/Islamic past because they feel inferior to western sociey and standards.What they failt to realise is Islamic culture is now ingrained in there psyche as a race and there history to a large extent is now also Islamic whether they like it or not. Meddish! I don't beleive in westen superiority at all! I beleive that we True M.Eastern people are the most ancient people.All of global relegions rose in our "cradle of humanity" as well as most ancient civilizations like Sumer,Assyr,Persia,Phonecia,Egypt,... BUT! arabs are an exeption!
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Post by Meddish on May 7, 2005 16:58:16 GMT -5
Meddish! I don't beleive in westen superiority at all! I beleive that we True M.Eastern people are the most ancient people.All of global relegions rose in our "cradle of humanity" as well as most ancient civilizations like Sumer,Assyr,Persia,Phonecia,Egypt,... BUT! arabs are an exeption! Nabatean and Sheba two civilizations that arose in the ME probably from the ancestors of some of the people who call themselves Arabs today.Whats your problem with Arabs not that I care? as your countrys arabised to shit with OUR culture and religion now ;D
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Post by Ardashir on May 8, 2005 3:58:55 GMT -5
Nabatean and Sheba two civilizations that arose in the ME probably from the ancestors of some of the people who call themselves Arabs today.Whats your problem with Arabs not that I care? as your countrys arabised to shit with OUR culture and religion now ;D No! 1-Nabatean and Sheba civilizations are utterly uncomparisonable with other great ME civilizations like Babylon,Assyr,Phonecia,Syria,Persia,.... 2-since Many of Modern Arabs have ~15% Negroid admixture and since Ancient Arabs like the other true Semits didn't have such a admixture,therefore modern Arabs have nothing to do even with Anciant Arabs!
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Post by Meddish on May 8, 2005 5:26:16 GMT -5
Yes! RE:1-Nabatean and Sheba civilizations are utterly uncomparisonable with other great ME civilizations like Babylon,Assyr,Phonecia,Syria,Persia,.... According to you........... RE:2-since Many of Modern Arabs have ~15% Negroid admixture and since Ancient Arabs like the other true Semits didn't have such a admixture,therefore modern Arabs have nothing to do even with Anciant Arabs! O please...........tell me WHO in the M'E is racially pure!!! according to DNA studies (which im highly suspicous off) they found 3% SSA dna in the levantine poples as well.
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Post by zain on May 9, 2005 10:54:53 GMT -5
yet today thousands of Iranian flee to Arabia for work and better life ,they even send their hookers and beggars !!!! geeeee what have you don't with your oil ,what have your " Iranian revolution (a Marxism mixed with shia'it ) achieve in the last deiced ?, you better look at your culture first ?we don't see you the way you see your self.
yes we are nomadic bedouin ,but we at least build our countries and we comfort our people and we made more achievement than any other oil rich "so called civilized " countries in the region . Iran ,Iraq ,and Lybia rich oil country ,yet poor people ,and stupid governments . Sorry , so stupid governments .
Some arab have Negro gene from their mother side... so what ,you think Arabia were only for pure arab ,arab are ethnically diverse, we are not homogenous society ,we have a large % of Afro-Arabian ,and even Indian. in Iran do you consider Baluchi and Makriani as pure Parisians ,or even Parisians
even America had significant "pure Negroid" in their country ,still they are the greatest nation in the world today ,and they don't have so called ancient civilisation . ancient Yemen were more civilised that ancient England ,that does not mean any thing today .
If you are one of those arab-hater who blame the arab for their failure ,then i should remind you that we have no business what so ever with your Iranian Mullahs empire , we stood against them when they try to cause problem to us , your people overthrow a very liberal king ,for a Marxist Mullahs ,that is your mistake not our .
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Post by Meddish on May 9, 2005 18:54:51 GMT -5
RE:Some arab have Negro gene from their mother side... so what ,you think Arabia were only for pure arab ,arab are ethnically diverse, we are not homogenous society ,we have a large % of Afro-Arabian ,and even Indian. in Iran do you consider Baluchi and Makriani as pure Parisians ,or even Parisians Well said Zain good points all round and not just the from the quote above. It seems sadly that a lot of people like to make an easy scapegoat and blame the Arab peoples for there countrys failures and runiations over the last thousand years Do you know if there are any studies refuting the claim that Arabs have as much as 35% SSA dna on thier mothers side?
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Post by mike2 on May 9, 2005 19:03:09 GMT -5
That Bedouin guy in Zain's signature looks like Jesus.
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Post by Meddish on May 9, 2005 19:37:23 GMT -5
That Bedouin guy in Zain's signature looks like Jesus. I think he looks very European!? minus the clothes and hair of course.
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Post by geo on May 10, 2005 4:21:08 GMT -5
Any Zoroastrian arabs/iranians here?
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Post by zain on May 22, 2005 8:07:57 GMT -5
RE:Some arab have Negro gene from their mother side... so what ,you think Arabia were only for pure arab ,arab are ethnically diverse, we are not homogenous society ,we have a large % of Afro-Arabian ,and even Indian. in Iran do you consider Baluchi and Makriani as pure Parisians ,or even Parisians Well said Zain good points all round and not just the from the quote above. It seems sadly that a lot of people like to make an easy scapegoat and blame the Arab peoples for there countrys failures and runiations over the last thousand years Do you know if there are any studies refuting the claim that Arabs have as much as 35% SSA dna on thier mothers side? There is no study that say Arab have that much ,it only say Yemen ,this caused by yemeni sample (of 115 persons) taken from country of Kuwait ! ,(which indicate to me that it is not accurate survey) .However without genetic study , Yemen does have 15% Afro-Arabian , constitute one of traditional social castes ,they are not Negroid or Athiopoid they are just arab with African admixture . A larger study of the Arabian is with 389 samples shows only 10% African mt-DNA .
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