Sacred Loyalty to the Deities of our Ancestors.

[Tautalos]

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[Tautamo]

Whos deities? alot of this pagan stuff is goofy.but with that said i love learning what my ancient ancestors (Portuguese iberians)

[mike2]

No thanks. I don't find the lust of Greek mythology particularly appealing. I like Norse mythology better, even though its darker it's closer to the Anglo-Saxon world in which I live and speak.

[Tautalos]

Tautamo said:

Whos Deities?

The Deities of Lusitania; and of Rome also, since the Portuguese are (at least partially) Latins.

[Tautalos]

Mike said:

No thanks. I don't find the lust of Greek mythology particularly appealing. I like Norse mythology better, even though its darker it's closer to the Anglo-Saxon world in which I live and speak.

Doesn't the Norse mythology have lust?...

[mike2]

Tautalos said:

Doesn't the Norse mythology have lust?...

Yes, but not to a significant extent in my opinion. I think the bawdiest sexual reference is one of the goddesses sleeping with dwarves but besides that it's pretty tame. A more war-oriented mythology overall. The Old Norse language is pleasurable to me, as well. I like Greek, too, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't top the northern spirit of Teutons. Greeks were too busy being civilized.

[Tautamo]

Tautalos said:

The Deities of Lusitania; and of Rome also, since the Portuguese are (at least partially) Latins.

here is the problem

norse mythology has nothing to do with Iberia

nor does "celtic" and roman mythology

Iberia is unique and special and it has its own MYTHOLOGY which is 100'S years older than the arrival of "celts" and romans.granted their is some mixer of celtic mythology but NO roman......

[Tautalos]

Mike said:

Yes, but not to a significant extent in my opinion. I think the bawdiest sexual reference is one of the goddesses sleeping with dwarves but besides that it's pretty tame.

Oh, there is a lot more... search about Loki's adventures as a mare, read the Lokasena and see Loki been called «effeminated», and calling Odin «effeminated» as well...

The Old Norse language is pleasurable to me, as well.

Yes, for me too. I specially appreciate proparoxitone words and all the Germanic languages have a proparoxitone vocabulary.

I recomend www.odinlives.org/archives.php, where one can listen to some nordic traditional music...

[Tautalos]

Tautamo said:

here is the problem

norse mythology has nothing to do with Iberia

nor does "celtic" and roman mythology

In what concerns nordic mythology, it is true that it does not have too much relation to Iberia, but regarding Celtic and Roman traditions... well, most of the contemporary Iberian folks are Romanic or Latin. It's a fact.
As for the Celts, there are vestiges of Celtic worship in Iberia, namely, of Lug, Epona and Hermes Devorix (probably, the same as Lug).

When you speak about Iberia's religion, what do you have in mind?

[Tautamo]

Tautalos said:

In what concerns nordic mythology, it is true that it does not have too much relation to Iberia, but regarding Celtic and Roman traditions... well, most of the contemporary Iberian folks are Romanic or Latin. It's a fact.
As for the Celts, there are vestiges of Celtic worship in Iberia, namely, of Lug, Epona and Hermes Devorix (probably, the same as Lug).

When you speak about Iberia's religion, what do you have in mind?

i have some stuff about ancient mythology of both Portugal and Spain (iberia)links and books but i have to look for them to answer properly and to give reference by real scholars/professors.

Their is also a great webpage/messageboard (sorta of) where people discuss these very things but only in Spanish www.celtiberia.net/ (check it out)

Tautalos, you named Lug, Epona and Hermes Devorix, do you have any thing which i can read about them? im interested how they relate to Iberia.

a quick search in my fav list for you:

Lusitani mythology
Lusitanian (or Ancient Portuguese) Gods were later related with the Celtic and Roman invaders. The Lusitani people adopted the Celt and Roman cults and influenced them with theirs. Many Lusitani gods were adopted by the Romans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitanian_mythology

Atégina - Goddess of Nature and Cure
Ares Lusitani - God of Horses
Bandonga - Goddess of Lusitani Celts
Bormanico - God of Termal Waters (Spas)
Cariocecus - God of War
Duberdicus - God of Fontains and Water
Endovelicus - Supreme God
Mars Cariocecus - God of War of Tuy
Nabia - Goddess of Rivers and Water
Nantosvelta - Goddess of Nature
Runesocesius - God of Darts
Sucellus - God of Agriculture, Forrests and Alcoholic Drinks
Tongoenabiagus - God of Oaths Fontain
Trebaruna - Goddess of the House, Battles and Death
Turiacus - God of Power of the Grovi People

this link relates to Catalan

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_myths_and_legends

[Tautamo]

tonight or tomorrow ill look up my old links (which i have many! with real reliable sources )and some books.

I love anything thats Ibeiran/Portuguese!

i wish their was a messageboard soley for Iberia for both Portuguese/Spanish and of course English speakers where we can discuss these very subjects!

[Tautalos]

Tautamo said:

Tautalos, you named Lug, Epona and Hermes Devorix, do you have any thing which i can read about them?

You can search it in any book by Blazquez-Martinez.

Online, I can give you this following adress, for information on Lug worshipped in Iberia:

groups.msn.com/HISPANIADEORVM/eldiosluglvgvs.msnw

from the group Hispania Deorvm:
groups.msn.com/HISPANIADEORVM/


Another Celtic Deity worshipped in Iberia (both in Portugal and in Spain), is Netus, or Neton. About this God of War, it's fascinating, both what is written in Hispania Deorvm and what is written in Lealdade Sacra.

Thank you for the list.