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Post by galvez on Dec 31, 2003 9:09:30 GMT -5
The lamest of all lame ad hominem attacks -- a White Nationalist calls you a "Jew" because he has lost an argument. Can anything in the world be more original? It's almost as if White Nationalist forums select for the most dogmatic and stupidest people in all of cyberspace. Is there anything more lame than being called a "Jew" in a debate?
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Post by AWAR on Dec 31, 2003 11:00:38 GMT -5
Heh, I've been called a Jew a couple of times what a lame attempt at insulting. I haven't been posting at too many forums, but I noticed on thing: people are the same wherever you go. It doesn't matter what ideology or interest is represented, you always have dogmas and closed-minded freaks who cling on to some sort of allegiance because it seems to be their only source of self-respect. If it's a movie forum, people will group in accordance to what movie/director/actor they like, so as there is a nordicist predominance at Skadi ( and the Nord vs. Med quarrel ) you can find Bruce Lee vs. Jackie Chan supporters, Revlon vs. Max Factor, Mercedes vs. BMW etc. I think forums are for fun and learning, as well as discussing with people you find to be interesting. Sadly there is a huge number of idiots who find the interent's anonymity a perfect background for letting off their frustrations. I'd also add that I feel sorry for these poor cretins ( Galvez probably knows which exact ones I'm speaking of ), but I can just feel contempt for those who let these cretins ruin good discussions. You can see that the only bind between some members and mods is their allegiance to the same ideology. The funny thing is that WN reminds me of communism, where all people were lumped together, as equals, because they all 'believe' in the same ideology, even though it's clear that all people are of different interests and ablities. WN is just a way to delude the masses of the poor and unhappy whites in USA that the reason behind all their failures are the Jews, and that they are in some miraculous way BETTER than others simply because they were born as 'Aryans'. This is a potentially damaging ideology because it promotes ignorance ( I'm white, therefore I don't have to learn/study/think ), generalizations ( I'm whte you're black ), negative selection ( A low IQ white is better than a high ability non-white ; a white criminal is not as bad as a non-white criminal ) You can see how this type of thought can be very destructive and decadent, and this was just the ones I could think of as I was typing, I'm sure there are more examples.
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Post by Artemidoros on Dec 31, 2003 12:19:16 GMT -5
The ultimate criterion for someone's Jewishness in the bad old days of 1940s, was to present your penis for inspection. Since there are still people who use this "insult", I think the most appropriate answer would be to post the picture of a penis. Whether the penis is circumcised or not, as well as the true owner of it are in my opinion immaterial. It would be preferable though to post one that is erect and of ample proportions. ;D
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warlord
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Post by warlord on Jan 1, 2004 17:03:49 GMT -5
At Stormfront, I was called a crazy Dravido-centric Hindu ultra-nationalist.
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Post by Artemidoros on Jan 1, 2004 19:41:46 GMT -5
At Stormfront, I was called a crazy Dravido-centric Hindu ultra-nationalist. Make it part of your medal collection from past campaigns. Being an armchair general, I am not likely to gain such a distinction. Unless the enemy moves against my armchair of course.
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Post by galvez on Jan 1, 2004 20:55:28 GMT -5
Heh, I've been called a Jew a couple of times what a lame attempt at insulting. I haven't been posting at too many forums, but I noticed on thing: people are the same wherever you go. It doesn't matter what ideology or interest is represented, you always have dogmas and closed-minded freaks who cling on to some sort of allegiance because it seems to be their only source of self-respect. If it's a movie forum, people will group in accordance to what movie/director/actor they like, so as there is a nordicist predominance at Skadi ( and the Nord vs. Med quarrel ) you can find Bruce Lee vs. Jackie Chan supporters, Revlon vs. Max Factor, Mercedes vs. BMW etc. This is a good point: what goes on in White Nationalist forums can be seen as a microcosm for the intolerance in the larger society and in human nature. This is very true. Those ideologically aligned tend to see one another as the most "enlightened" or "intelligent," and opponents as dunces. This is a good point: White Nationalism makes all Whites into equals, regardless of their abilities. Thus, the lowliest White Nationalist becomes better than those of "inferior" races. There is a certain egalitarianism within White Nationalism. I am sick and tired of White Nationalists blaming Jews for everything. They see a Black man walking with a Nordic blonde, and suddenly they envision media Jews manipulating the blonde. It never occurs to them that the blonde might just prefer to be with the Black man, or has liberal male relatives who worship Blacks and maybe introduced her to said person (a more plausible explanation than media brainwash). Exactly: there is a certain disincentive within the White Nationalist ideology, because superiority and status are granted by birth rather than by merit. Another aspect of this is that some ethnically mixed individuals will "pick and choose" exactly what nationality they identify with, and will thus take the best traits of that nationality and compare them with the perceived worst traits of other groups. Thus a false sense of superiority is taken for granted within the ideology.
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Post by nobody you know on Jan 26, 2004 9:02:34 GMT -5
Where was this AWAR? On skadi?
I think it's completely stupid. If someone says "im a jew" on one of these sites, they say "You jew!" Its ridiculous.
LOL at the black man and white woman thing. I can just imagine one of them saying something like:
"She loves me *drool* I know she does, but the kikes told her to hate me. She sent me a letter saying that she hated me, but I know she really loves me. She told me to stop following her...and then she went into her house. I followed her into her house *snort* and then she threw me out. Its just a test of my love, I need to do something to prove my lurrrve...before the kikes get her...i have to save her from the kikes...*slurp* maybe I could kill a kike *slurp* and then she will know how much I love her...The kikes sent me a letter telling me not to come within 50 yards of her house. But I know that I have to *drool*, because she loves me - I know that she loves me because she was on the television and she waved to me..."
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Post by AWAR on Jan 26, 2004 10:49:25 GMT -5
Yep, it seems it's quite common to blame Jews for everything. Jews are so handy for blaming.
BTW, what does kike mean? I know it's an insultive name for Jews, but I have no idea what it can mean.
In fact, why are there so many names for Jews? We call Jews 'Jevreji', germans call you Juden, english Jews etc. what's the origin of all these names?
Perhaps Melnorme knows something?
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Post by Melnorme on Jan 26, 2004 11:44:27 GMT -5
Yep, it seems it's quite common to blame Jews for everything. Jews are so handy for blaming. BTW, what does kike mean? I know it's an insultive name for Jews, but I have no idea what it can mean. I'm not sure, but I think it may have something to do with bagels(?) It's probably a shortening of something longer. Probably just varied European translations of 'Judea'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Jan 26, 2004 16:23:13 GMT -5
Kike: Originates from the word 'keikl', in Yiddish, which means 'circle', the reason being that the first Jewish immigrants in America, who were unable to sign their names, signed with a circle instead of a cross. From the racial slur database: www.rsdb.org/
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Post by ReligionResearcher on Feb 28, 2004 16:45:24 GMT -5
I personally think the funniest thing about WN's calling people Jews as an insult, or blaming Jews for everything, is the fact that there is a growing number of Jews and scholars and laymen, who feel that the Aryan people's, or the Caucasion peoples are hebrew in ancestry, descended from the 10 northern tribes of Israel. And seeing as a small percentage of modern day Jews are also descended from probably all 13 tribes of Israel, that would mean that WN's and Jews were in a sense, brothers or close cousins, relatively speaking. But then again, the northern kingdom of Israel and the southern kingdom of Judea did fight quite abit, so possibly their not getting along these days can be in some way traced back to their origins? Now another thing to consider is that even many Jews admit that the majority of people today that claim to be Jews, are not descended from Jacob, and may not even be semitic, so maybe part of it is that non-semitic peoples claiming to be part of the Chosen People, subconsciencously doesn't sit well with those who are really descended from the Chosen People, the Caucasions? I doubt that though, since the vast majority of Caucasions have no problems with Jews at all, but do have problems with WNs.
I've read up on a lot of stuff critical of Jews, and while I will admit that there is a lot of crap out there, there is alot of it that has some pretty good solid basis in truth. I don't know if saying that will get me labeled as a WN is here or not, but I am not too concerned one way or another, I've been called worse, the Anti-Christ even. To tell you the truth, I never even heard or of or seen the term White Nationalist before, but I am intelligent enough to know pretty much who or what is being talked about. I am an American, and there seems to be a lot of Europeans in here, so there might be alot that I am not aware of, which is fine, I am open to learning and willing to do research and catch up on something if someone feels that I need to do so.
I guess I am not afraid to criticize a people group if they deserve it, or individuals or partial populations of certain people groups, if I feel its warrented, including Jews, for I know in my heart that I have nothing against anyone for reasons of race or ethnicity or gender, and not even necessarily religion, but attitude yes, a person's attitude is what I judge them by basically. And often times those with good intentions bring about the worst results, so I tend to try to keep that in mind when discussing issue's such as Jews and their effects on society, and if or not they are to blame for certain things.
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