Jews are the most overrated people ever...

[Necronomicom]

Im all for racial preservation and all white nations, however when White Nationalists talk against the jews I find most of the arguments lame and contradictory, not that i accept jews, but i also don't feel like hearing made up facts about them, all the non-NS WNs agree that NS isn't that great but they all still seen to agree with surpassed theories against jews made by the Nazis...

Here some jew conspiracy theories that contradict other theories:

Theory:
-Jews are the most greedy people ever and they are very sellfish, they control the media, banks, large stores, big companies, etc, making them the biggest capitalists ever
Contradictory theory:
-Jews created communism, and they were responsable for the socialism in the European nations, jews are the most communist people ever.

Theory:
-The arabs and palestines who live in Israel are inocent people who suffer from the evil of Zionism.
Contradictory theory:
-When one of those "innocent" arab/palestine burns a American flag or moves to Europe they instantly become evil. (but not as evil as the jews off course)

Theory:
-The "evil" jews have no right to defend their land using violence against the "innocent" palestines and arabs.
Contradictory theory:
-It was perfectly ok for the Nazis and Italian fascists to use excessive violent methods against Jews and Africans, because it was for a good reason.


and besides those contradictory theories there are also many more theories that are just plain stupid:
-all jews promote multiculturalism
-jews are responsable for porn
-Jews want to destroy the white race
-Jews were the real responsables for slavery
-Albert Einstein was a idiot who copied all his theories from the great Nazi scientists
-only 1 million or even less died in the holocaust, therefore it was not that bad.
-The Nazis didn't kill the jews, they died because of starvation
-If a person looks white but does something wrong against the white race its probably because that person is a jew pretending to be white.
-Jews use internet forums to pretend to be nordicists and create divisions between whites, like the people from skadi.net


whatever i read those idiotic theories created by white people i instantly think about negros and how they all whine and blame all their problems in the "evil" white society with lame arguments that go all the way back to the 15-19 centuries.

i think the only reason why WNs blame jews so much is because there is no one else better to blame, and because most WNs are still into the fake zionist conspiracy theories created a long time ago.

For me jews are just another group of people that i don't want to mix with, but i fail to agree with most of the absurd theories created against them.

your thoughts?

[Dean]

Necronomicom said:

Im all for racial preservation and all white nations, however when White Nationalists talk against the jews I find most of the arguments lame and contradictory, not that i accept jews, but i also don't feel like hearing made up facts about them, all the non-NS WNs agree that NS isn't that great but they all still seen to agree with surpassed theories against jews made by the Nazis...

I don't think many people here care about the"White Nationalists" perspective on Jews. Because of Jews' superior education and cultural cohesiveness, they succeeded in hostile areas, and their genes show that to a large degree they maintained their pre-diaspora genotypes. In the context of this biodiversity board, this to me is to be commended. I don't waste my time with racist ideologies. I've known many Jews and found that they are [gasp!] like most anyone else. I find fixation on Jews stranger than any Jewish stereotypes.

[AWAR]

I tend to agree that most WN theories are contradicting eachother.

[nobody you know]

I don't think black people blame their problems on evil white society - a lot of black people are starting to get past such a bad atitude and trying to make something of themselves.

however there is still a lot of work to be done and i think that defending your people against charges of "laziness" and "stupidity" as many whites still do seem to think about blacks is no bad thing. i know a lot of people who are very racist against blacks and should know better.

"White Nationalists" are the most whining people on the planet. I have never come across a racist that didn't whine or was an honest person, both online and in real life.

[Silveira]

One of the many contradicitions of the neo-nazi and "white nationalist" types is that they (or at least the vast majority of them) defend as an ideal society the regime which existed in Germany from 1933 to 1945 yet they constantly whine and complain whenever they perceive any violation of their "free speach" or "individual rights" or whenever one of the many disfunctional individuals who are attracted to these movements gets himself into trouble.

[nobody you know]

Yes.

One of them accused me of promoting "genocide" and the "destruction of the White race" - which in their eyes means miscegenation. Little do they realise that a majority of people marry the person they fall in love with, and don't need "jews manipulating their minds to miscegenate". Most people also marry within their own race, but it's no bad thing if you don't. a lot of the most beautiful girls i know are mixed.

I don't get what the connection is between jews and miscegenation anyway must be something i've missed!

[citadel]

I think too many people, ranging from Nazis and most White Nationalists, to fundamental Christians and Muslims, suffer from a sort of "Jewish fetish". Their lives are without meaning unless they have a "Jew" (real or symbolic) for fulfilment.

[Graeme]

Yes Jews are overrated, but they did assimilate and contribute to every country they went. Also without Jews the Christian religion has no meaning.

If you look at it this way. Had Europeans accepted Jews as citizens of their countries there would not be any bastard country called Israel, no Zionism, no David ben Gurion, no Palestinian problem, no Yom Kippur, no wars in West Asia, no suicide bombers and probably no Sept 11. Sharon and his whole ugly family could be slithering around Poland today not in that bastard country born in 1948.

[Melnorme]

Graeme said:

Yes Jews are overrated, but they did assimilate and contribute to every country they went.

Contribute they did, but I don't think they really 'assimilated' until the 19th century. Medieval Jews had explosive birthrates, which may have been part of the reason Europeans feared them. Of course, that was then, this is now...

Also without Jews the Christian religion has no meaning.

I wouldn't say that. The 'Israelites' could just as easily be a mythical extinct people. Many people believe just that.

If you look at it this way. Had Europeans accepted Jews as citizens of their countries there would not be any bastard country called Israel, no Zionism, no David ben Gurion, no Palestinian problem, no Yom Kippur, no wars in West Asia, no suicide bombers and probably no Sept 11.

Possibly. But that's not what happened...the Tamils are the ones who invented suicide bombing, though.

Sharon and his whole ugly family could be slithering around Poland today not in that bastard country born in 1948.

Sharon is a Russian Jew. You don't like Israel, do you?

[galvez]

nobody said:

however there is still a lot of work to be done and i think that defending your people against charges of "laziness" and "stupidity" as many whites still do seem to think about blacks is no bad thing.

White Nationalists should be the last ones to attack Blacks. White Nationalists are typically the dregs of the "White" race. Lots of individual Blacks are more successful than White Nationalists. This is a fact -- one that they often forget.

White Nationalists treat Blacks in the abstract manner, as opposed to as individuals sharing common physical and, to a lesser degree, psychological traits. In a way stereotyping people reinforces stereotypes, because those who are stereotyped will react in a certain way as a defense mechanism, further reinforcing within the small-minded bigot that the group he dislikes has individuals who are "all alike."

There is a major difference between wanting to preserve your culture and race and joining online forums merely to attack and degrade others to feel better about yourself. The psychological outlet that the internet provides is one reason why so many dregs infest White Nationalism.

[ReligionResearcher]

I think that one thing that has to be considered when pondering the Jewish Issue, is that we really don't know who the Jews are, or who might be Jews without even knowing it.

Now another thing to be considered that will help to explain what I mean in the above statement, is what does the label "Jew" mean anyway? I think that terms have to be determined before a constructive conversation can take place on this topic. Example? The Jewish Almanac, and I believe also the Jewish Encyclopedia, both speak of how the majority of people today who call themselves Jews, are not in fact descended from Jacob, the father of the Israelites, but are descended from non-semitic or non-Israelite semites who converted to Judaism and passed it on to their descendents, and in little time, their descendents didn't know any different. One main example of this is the large percentage of Ashkenazi Jews of Eastern Europe. Many of these people migrated there from Khazaria, and are converts or descendents of converts and are of Mongol/Japhetic ancestry.


I personally do not care what race a person is, what their ancestry is, etc., but the reason that I DO care about the Jewish issue, is for a couple reasons. #1, what the UN did to create the state of Israel, and for who's benefit. The vast majority of the Jewish Israelis are not descendents of Jacob. I understand that they may have needed a homeland, for their own protection, but why Palestine? Its their false claims of it being their homeland, of it being promised to them by Yahweh, and their feeling it ok to displace the Palestinians who lived there up to that time. #2, nowadays its almost impossible to criticize Jews publically, without being labeled an anti-semite, and once you are so labeled, there is no real defense, you are guilty the minute they accuse you, in the eyes of most. Jews use this word as a weapon to silence their critics.


Now someone earlier mentioned that the Israelites of old could be a mythological group that has disappeared, or their continued existence is a myth, or something like that? Well, the evidence is mounting that the Israelites in fact do still exist. Now another thing to note is that after the division of the Kingdom the two parts were called Judea and Israel. Judea was occupied by at least a few members of every tribe, but mainly of the majority of Levites, and probably all of the Benjamites and all of the Judeans, and it was these people who were later(time of Yeshua/Jesus) called Jews. Israel was occupied by the other 10 tribes and a few Levites who did not migrate south to Judea after the split. So, the Israelites were not the same as Judeans/Jews, necessarily.


When the Assyrians conquered Israel, or as it was called by some, Samaria, they transported all but a small number of these Israelites out of the area. Some were shipped off with Phoenicians to Tarshish and other places in the seafaring lands, but most were transported back to Assyria and places in boundary areas to serve as a sort of buffer from enemies. These Israelites did not just disappear. If we trust the numbers as stated in the hebrew scriptures, there were probably close to 6 million Israelites transported throughout the Assyrian territories. So they did not just disappear, but what most likely happened was that they were called by a different name. I've read well researched(but not necessarily true, mind you) articles that claim that the Goths, Cimmerians & Scythians(Sakai/Saxons) were made up in part, at least, by Israelites. All three of these groups pretty much suddenly appeared in about the same place, and at about the same time, as the Israelites were taken from Samaria, and placed in northern Assyria. The names of those groups can also be argued to have evidence that shows them to be identified with Israelites.


Having had said this, this and other indications of migrations of Israelites and Jews throughout Asia, Africa and Europe could mean that MOST Caucasians are really descendents of Israelites, while many other people groups can also trace their roots back to the nation of Israel. The Scriptural prophecy stated that Abraham would be the father of many nations, of so many people that they would outnumber the sands on the beach, and the stars in the sky. Well, the population of so-called Jews on earth right now hardly stagger the imagination. But if you add to that a large portion of causasians & many of the Arabs(Esau's & Ishmael's offspring, not to mention the 7 sons Abraham had with his 2nd wife) and you start to get up there into pretty big numbers.


Well, I've gone on too long, but all I was trying to do was point out that there are many things to consider when considering the whole Jewish Issue.

[Marina]

Necronomicom said:

-Jews use internet forums to pretend to be nordicists and create divisions between whites, like the people from skadi.net

I *thought* my Jew-Dar was going off every time I'd read something Loki or Nordhammer had written! ;D ;D

whatever i read those idiotic theories created by white people i instantly think about negros and how they all whine and blame all their problems in the "evil" white society with lame arguments that go all the way back to the 15-19 centuries.

i think the only reason why WNs blame jews so much is because there is no one else better to blame, and because most WNs are still into the fake zionist conspiracy theories created a long time ago.

For me jews are just another group of people that i don't want to mix with, but i fail to agree with most of the absurd theories created against them.

Basically, I agree. I don't harbor any resentment against the Jews.

Scapegoat mentalities like the Nazis had against the Jews are unhealthy and are purpoted by jealous people with inferiority complexes!

[Aria88]

Necronomicom makes some good, rational arguments. I, too, think that WN groups have made many far-fetched criticisms of the Jews; however, Jewish power itself is destructive. Let's take a look at a few malicious rumors first, and then some constructive criticism.

Crazy Stuff:

Jewish Ritual Murder
Descended from the Seed of Satan (Nephilim)
The Jews are Non-White
All Jews are in on a Big Plan to Take Over the World

Constructive Criticism:

The Jews are Just as Good at Propaganda as Anyone Else (Holocaust)
Powerful Jewish Organizations are Good at Pushing their Agendas
Israel, via American Jewry, is Kept Alive by US Government

I don't have the time right now to debate the above, but I'd like to say that the Jews have been the recipient of much abuse by Gentiles throughout history. But then again Christians have persecuted their own even more brutally. In many ways the Christian Gentiles have pushed Jewry into a defensive posture, thus playing Frankenstein. They really have themselves to blame to a degree.

As far as the right to existence of the state of Israel, let the US take away support and let them duke it out with the Arabs. Hopefully Israel will let loose their nuclear weapons and we'll see what becomes of the AssHoly land then.

Incidentally, the Ashkenazim, who make up the vast majority of today's Jewry, are not Semites. They are the descendants of the Khazars, themselves a synthesis of Turk, Slav and Sarmatian Iranian. Yes, of course the Jews are White, no matter what Pastor Billy Bob says. They have, however, no genetic ties to Palestine, even with the occasional mixing with Sephardim -- true Jews. This influx of new blood 1200 years ago did ensure that the religion would continue to flourish, though. Without the Ashkenazim, the Jews would now be about as numerous as those poor, underrated Parsees.

On a more positive note, oftentimes I wish Gentiles were more like Jews, what with the drive to succeed and the close ties of community and family, which I rarely see in others these days.

[SwordandCompass]

If i where you guys i would immediately get rid of this posting and kill this threads for the jew is watching and he might impose the kosher tax on this board!!!! runnnn the jews are attacking!

oy vey metal rules!!!!!!! i bet jews had something to do with evil heavy metal!!! ha
#nosmileys

[murphee]

Hehe!! I'm right here watching--(murphee the blonde Ashkenazi!)