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Post by TSUNTZU on Dec 12, 2003 0:02:04 GMT -5
And why are using computer? Is that a joke? It is a stupid joke.
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Post by TSUNTZU on Dec 12, 2003 0:10:25 GMT -5
So you are trying to clown me, huh? You're still upset about that non white caucasoid comment I made sometime ago. Did you look at that pictorial presentation by Dienekes titled 'The Twelve Faces of the Caucasoid Race?' Did you learn anything from that? It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. Nobody's perfect.
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Post by Stribog on Dec 12, 2003 2:17:24 GMT -5
Maybe it's just that AWAR has a good sense of humor and you don't like it, hmm? Are you one of those people who just repeats VNN buzzwords and tautologies like 'white = white'?
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Post by TSUNTZU on Dec 12, 2003 2:22:57 GMT -5
Maybe it's just that AWAR has a good sense of humor and you don't like it, hmm? Are you one of those people who just repeats VNN buzzwords and tautologies like 'white = white'? Before you insert yourself into this back and forth between AWAR and myself, know completely what the hell is going on. Those jokes in the previous posts were simply stupid.
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Post by hodgson on Dec 17, 2003 16:11:32 GMT -5
it just means i converted to isalm :o
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Dean
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Truth Before Ego
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Post by Dean on Dec 20, 2003 16:47:13 GMT -5
I guess I am an atheist. I don't believe in a god that exists separately from all things and life; this is fraught with illogic and lack of scientific proof. I certainly don't believe in the Judeo-Christian/Islamic God who sits in judgment of us. I believe that "God" is the manifestation of all things as themselves--if we choose to believe this. From a spiritual perspective, I don't go much beyond metaphysical interpretation of the universe. I prefer imperfect science, that admits its errors and searches for truth.
One of my coworkers said God will judge all of us. I asked her what is God, and she said, "a spirit." I said that in order for God to judge anything, "He" must have a brain with at least the development of a human brain. She appeared dumbfounded and quickly changed the subject. As far as the Hubble telescope can see, and now the infrared telescope, nothing like the God so many people believe in exists. I don't need simplified and personified explanations of nature, nor am I much concerned with others' religion or wish to convert others to my thinking. I strongly support others' rights to believe in what they choose. I am wary of religious fundamentalists who slam the door on logic and science.
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Post by dandan on Jan 6, 2004 22:24:05 GMT -5
[td][/td] I'm an atheist who loves Baby Jesus. And I'll kill any man who tries to tell my our Heavenly Mother wasn't a virgin!
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Post by sublime on Jan 12, 2004 16:13:53 GMT -5
muslim
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Post by Satyros on Jan 12, 2004 16:41:56 GMT -5
Greek Orthodox Christian by tradition, a free scientific thinker by education.
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Post by Artemisia on Jan 12, 2004 19:35:03 GMT -5
[/td] I'm an atheist who loves Baby Jesus. And I'll kill any man who tries to tell my our Heavenly Mother wasn't a virgin![/quote] Well, according to Origen and an early Christian papyrus from Egypt, Jesus was the son of the virgin Mary and a Roman soldier (ethnicity unknown) named Panthera. And no, Mary was not a virgin after all......she bore Joseph several children.
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Post by Dienekes on Jan 13, 2004 2:01:22 GMT -5
Where does Origen "say" that Jesus was the son of a Roman soldier?
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Post by Artemisia on Jan 13, 2004 13:08:58 GMT -5
Where does Origen "say" that Jesus was the son of a Roman soldier? In Contra Celsus (will let you know the exact line and chapter) quoting the "blasphemous" writings of Celsus. Also, an unidentified papyrus from the early Christian period seems to state the same thing, but I have no further information on this.
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Post by Dienekes on Jan 13, 2004 20:54:08 GMT -5
In Contra Celsus (will let you know the exact line and chapter) quoting the "blasphemous" writings of Celsus. Ok, so it was not Origen who said that Jesus was the son of a Roman, but the pagan polemicist Celsus.
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Post by Artemisia on Jan 13, 2004 23:33:54 GMT -5
Ok, so it was not Origen who said that Jesus was the son of a Roman, but the pagan polemicist Celsus. Yes, but just because Celsus was a pagan doesn't mean that he was necessarily wrong. We have to hear both sides in order to come up with a conclusion, don't we?
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Post by Dienekes on Jan 14, 2004 2:30:34 GMT -5
Yes, but just because Celsus was a pagan doesn't mean that he was necessarily wrong. We have to hear both sides in order to come up with a conclusion, don't we? It doesn't mean that he was wrong, but it does mean that he was biased, especially since he wasn't just a pagan, but an anti-Christian pagan polemicist.
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