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Post by human2 on Feb 3, 2006 10:51:34 GMT -5
(Ok, this is part of something I've been wanting to say for a long time, so I'll just make a topic about it instead of to Murphy in the thread about my signature, hopefully without setting the ire of Dodona me.) Now what I'm about to say does not mean I'm painting everyone on here in the same color. And I count myself in as well. And I realize the best people don't even like being criticized. There are some classy people on here, and classiness is not defined by what they post but who they are. This is the 1st message board I've been on that is intelligent (Sorry to cut you off there Murphy but I just wanna get that oft-repeated quote.  ) As someone in her middle age who in theory has done a lot of reflection, that's interesting to hear, because I've heard teens recognize this place for what it is better than you when I linked it somewhere. But we can't smell our own stench. This forum has a lot of discussions around the subject of race that borders on and often swims neck-deep in the infantile. The topics are recycled over and over again every 3 weeks, and guess what? It's driven by personalities, often ripe in age, not discussions, so that the general impression upon visiting this place is that of a cacophony of egos perturbed by race, and by tangent relations.. minor forays into politics and philosophy. And many of the personalities I can't imagine working behind an office desk let along in the halls of academia. Now, there is nothing wrong with blue collar folk. They/we come in unpretentious/natural and mean types, good and bad just as anyone else. But let's recognize this watering hole of gripes for what it is. When I come on, it's underlined.. a bunch of people lying to themselves/ourselves... arguing over minutia... when the trouble is more basic, more within their/our soul. And being careful about their manners... so that the crudest intent and meaning can get packaged in polite and "sophisticated" words.. ..all the while being clueless to the fact that classiness can't be imitated.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Feb 3, 2006 11:22:10 GMT -5
Those were MY words. Murphee was quoting me.
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Post by nockwasright on Feb 3, 2006 12:09:35 GMT -5
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Post by nordicyouth on Feb 3, 2006 12:36:48 GMT -5
No dude he told you: 'let along.'
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Post by Batrus on Feb 3, 2006 12:37:24 GMT -5
..all the while being clueless to the fact that classiness can't be imitated. Of course not, you're either born with a big butt or you're not. Eating will only make your stomach bigger.
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Post by annienormanna on Feb 3, 2006 12:56:30 GMT -5
(Ok, this is part of something I've been wanting to say for a long time, so I'll just make a topic about it instead of to Murphy in the thread about my signature, hopefully without setting the ire of Dodona me.) Now what I'm about to say does not mean I'm painting everyone on here in the same color. And I count myself in as well. And I realize the best people don't even like being criticized. There are some classy people on here, and classiness is not defined by what they post but who they are. This is the 1st message board I've been on that is intelligent (Sorry to cut you off there Murphy but I just wanna get that oft-repeated quote.  ) As someone in her middle age who in theory has done a lot of reflection, that's interesting to hear, because I've heard teens recognize this place for what it is better than you when I linked it somewhere. But we can't smell our own stench. This forum has a lot of discussions around the subject of race that borders on and often swims neck-deep in the infantile. The topics are recycled over and over again every 3 weeks, and guess what? It's driven by personalities, often ripe in age, not discussions, so that the general impression upon visiting this place is that of a cacophony of egos perturbed by race, and by tangent relations.. minor forays into politics and philosophy. And many of the personalities I can't imagine working behind an office desk let along in the halls of academia. Now, there is nothing wrong with blue collar folk. They/we come in unpretentious/natural and mean types, good and bad just as anyone else. But let's recognize this watering hole of gripes for what it is. When I come on, it's underlined.. a bunch of people lying to themselves/ourselves... arguing over minutia... when the trouble is more basic, more within their/our soul. And being careful about their manners... so that the crudest intent and meaning can get packaged in polite and "sophisticated" words.. ..all the while being clueless to the fact that classiness can't be imitated. I don't see Dodona as a society. I see it as a forum on the Internet. Where it does reflect societies, it does so through individuals who may of may not belong to the same society. Race is a hotbutton. There is no getting around it. Especially since racial attitudes are received and the concept itself is fluid. And where there is fluidity there is turbulence. I'm not surprised that adolescents may act out in ways to find safety in certainties against turbulence, because all certainties are received and therefore can only reflect the best they know, which is not necessarily the best that can be offered. For better or worse it's the human condition and humans do have personailties, which in and of itself is a form of biodiversity, as is race. If it was so that this forum is backwater for miscreant middle-agers and their twisted progeny then there wouldn't be a need to point it out, because such a conspiracy would not permit criticism. Looking for ugliness I will find ugliness. The same for beauty. The truth? The truth evolves, so you'll have to forgive me if I can't offer it. I don't feel particularly guilty of your sins, especially since I have my own to deal with. Now pass me a rag because your broad brush has gunked up my keyboard.
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Post by murphee on Feb 3, 2006 13:04:47 GMT -5
Yep, human2, that is NOT something I said. I quoted someone else. Nobody likes to be attacked. This place is like anywhere else in the world, Internet or real--lots of jerks & lots of good people
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Post by aroundtheworld on Feb 3, 2006 14:57:36 GMT -5
Murphee hit the nail on the head. When you wade through all the anger, sensitivity, and muckiness around here there is still Intelligent Life. There is a lot of "Us versus them" mentality so you have to tread lightly. I see so much Black/White animosity and it's pathetic. Southern Euros getting jumpy b/c they are called "mixed". Nords getting pissed b/c someone claims they have a drop of Mongloid blood...People still arguing over HOrners, Ethios,and Eritreans and whether they evolved or are just mixed...just silly to fight.
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Post by annienormanna on Feb 3, 2006 15:01:30 GMT -5
Murphee hit the nail on the head. suck up... 
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Post by aroundtheworld on Feb 3, 2006 15:02:14 GMT -5
Murphee hit the nail on the head. suck up...  you must be a suck up as well b/c you don't have beef with Murphee. No one does. I like Murphee.
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Post by annienormanna on Feb 3, 2006 15:03:49 GMT -5
suck up...  you must be a suck up as well b/c you don't have beef with Murphee. No one does. I like Murphee. Gotcha ;D
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Post by nockwasright on Feb 3, 2006 20:24:13 GMT -5
Murphee hit the nail on the head. When you wade through all the anger, sensitivity, and muckiness around here there is still Intelligent Life. There is a lot of "Us versus them" mentality so you have to tread lightly. I see so much Black/White animosity and it's pathetic. Southern Euros getting jumpy b/c they are called "mixed". Nords getting pissed b/c someone claims they have a drop of Mongloid blood...People still arguing over HOrners, Ethios,and Eritreans and whether they evolved or are just mixed...just silly to fight. Yes in the world as in the internet there is bad people and good people, this really hits the nail on the head, wow, I'm stunned by this revelation. You the good people are very smart to realise it and put it in such well construed propositions we all thought it was only good and wonderful or bad and horrible people. As for the rest of what you said, is not the mixing, alleged or real, the problem, but your ignorance and at the same time your claim to have something to say that has the same standing of everybody else's opinion just because you exist. Thanks to god it doesn't work that way. Nobody forces you to post, so when it emerges a deep ignorance of what genes are, what Europe is, what Europe is not, what the rules of logics and induction and deduction are, what everything that is important to understand this world is, you can't complain if you are insulted. Actually, your claim to have something to say is insulting. Your better suited for some astrological signs/ generic women wisdom forum. Go there.
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Post by personx on Feb 4, 2006 4:04:57 GMT -5
People come here looking for truth. Others come to block the truth. I say gimme some truth! 
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Post by eufrenio on Feb 4, 2006 8:35:37 GMT -5
If Dodona was a family (why be shy, this is more than just a society), human2 would be the uncle who shows up drunk and makes a scene at the Christmas dinner! 
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Post by dukeofpain on Feb 4, 2006 17:30:26 GMT -5
If Dodona was a family (why be shy, this is more than just a society), human2 would be the uncle who shows up drunk and makes a scene at the Christmas dinner!  I'd be the one alone in a corner mumbling obscenities. 
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